Ouch! 1000 Bucks is steep. The Kubota alternative sounds a lot better. I'm not much of a believer in the bigger wire. If it was big enough when designed 30 + years ago, it's still big enough. Perhaps a bigger wire would bandaid the symptom for a while.
It can be any number of things: -The switch, on a Yanmar there's no relay (bad) so the brunt of the current goes through the post button thingie. I replaced mine last year when it started doing it occasionally. It's seemed to put a bandaid on it for a while. Not sure how it's done on a Universal -The connections to the starter or switch. Mine were clean and tight. (And new on the switch side) - The solenoid - The brushes - The winding For me it started doing it very infrequently last year and got progressively worse this year. What sealed the deal for me was the prior weekend. It usually took 2 pushes when cold at the beginning of the weekend then got better. On that weekend it started right up when cold and took 3 pushes (one more than usual) after sailing for a few hours. At that point I knew that 1) A no go situation was probably pretty close around the corner 2) The completely random nature of the failure meant that the winding was more than likely the culprit as where it happens to stop on the commutator determines your faith. I also knew that at most I would pay 265 bucks for an equivalent Hitachi unit on eBay so there was no use in fooling with brushes or solenoids on a 27 year old starter, the bearings / winding could not be much further behind if the problem was the solenoid or brushes.. And yes, now it starts right up at the smallest tickle of the start button. I hope this helps.. Good luck, François On Sep 11, 2017 9:53 PM, "Dan Grant" <d...@runbox.com> wrote: I have a universal M 18 that I have to push the starter A few times to get it going it always works but I fear someday it won't I looked into getting a new starter and my parts guy said congratulations you have the most expensive starter I've seen $1000 I can get a new Kubota starter which would work fine for about 100 Very confusing I looked it up and there is something about running A stronger wire to the starter Maybe that's the problem? I'd like to know myself Dan 1970 Cv hull 148 Ipswich Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Francois Rivard via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Mastry (www.mastry.com) does it again! I just replaced the starter on Take Five this weekend and got a sweet deal on a re-man Hitachi unit: US $128.44 + shipping. Mastry's the best! They always have the best price, they even beat eBay and the shipping is super fast. That's for a real deal Yanmar / Hitachi unit confirmed to fit using my 3gm30F's serial number. Also the starter comes with a 18 months warranty, way better than the Yanmar 6 mos new parts warranty. The problem on my old starter? I suspect there was a bad winding. It would sometimes take 2-3 button pushes to get it going. -Francois 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, GA _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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