Haha, nice try counselor. I think the rule reads, whatever came with a boat,
stock. You did, however, remove a lot of water ballast that came with the
boat... okay, that didn't come with the boat.
Regards,
Bill Coleman C&C 39
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From: "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 10/11/17 21:33 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Matthew L. Wolford" <wolf...@erie.net>
Subject: Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table and C&C 30-2 vs Tartan 31
My table hasn’t been on board since I bought the boat. I guess I’m
grandfathered. You, on the other hand...
From: coltrek via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: coltrek
Subject: Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table and C&C 30-2
vs Tartan 31
Mine too -
I guess we can't protest each other over removing weight for our boats, can
we!.
Bill Coleman
C&C 39
-------- Original message --------
From:
"Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date:
10/11/17 14:02 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Matthew L.
Wolford" <wolf...@erie.net>
Subject: Re: Stus-List opinions about
cabin table and C&C 30-2 vs Tartan 31
I’ll add one more perspective. I have a beautiful teak table sitting
in my basement. The cabin is much roomier without it, and no one seems to
miss it.
Again, it’s all about how you use the boat.
From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:52 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike
Subject: Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table and C&C 30-2
vs Tartan 31
Hi
Lisle and also others
I
think fixed table or fold up table has a lot to do with how you intend to use
the boat. We have raced on a C&C 115 which had the fixed table.
Very nice layout when spending time below but when racing the fixed table makes
packing a spinnaker more arduous.
Our
current boat has a fold up to bulkhead table as did our Niagara 26 (most
Niagaras had a dinette). When we are cruising inshore we put the table
down and leave the stbd side leaf folded down. This is in fact very
similar to a fixed table with the port leaf up and stbd leaf down. Room to
get by but also more room to put snacks and other items. Really I do not
think it matters all that much which you have
The
BIG DIFFERENCE I see between the Tartan and C&C is the aft cabin vs a
quarterberth. When our girls were small we lived aboard our Niagara 26
most weekends in the summer. They were 6 and 8 when we started and we did
this for several years. Initially they would sleep in the vee berth which
left the rest of the boat free for us and guests once they were asleep.
Once they got older they wanted their own bunks and insisted on sleeping on the
settees which was less convenient all round. With a two cabin layout you
have a LOT MORE bedroom options for your children and can keep the main cabin
free for a common area. I think in many ways the 30-2 C&C affords more
flexibility for staying overnight with small children than a boat with an open
quarterberth. The downside is that the vee berth and quarterberth on the
C_C 30-2 will likely be more cramped than the vee berth on the
Tartan.
Our
first boat (C&C designed Paceship P23) had a dinette. It was fun for
the two girls who were 5 and 7 at the time because it fit them (and no one
else). A big pain with that setup when having 4 aboard was it had to be
folded down at night to be a bed and up in the day to give a useful
surface.
These are just some thoughts I wanted to share about
spending time aboard with small children for the two layouts you had
mentioned
Mike
Persistence
1987 Frers
33
Halifax,
NS
On Oct 11, 2017, at 6:09 AM,
Lisle Kingery, PhD <lisle.king...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks for all the helpful
replies on cabin table options. I've pretty much narrowed my boat choices
down
to either a C&C 30MKii or a Tartan 31 at this point. The Tartan's interior
appears more open with the folding table mounted on the bulkhead vs. the
fixed
table on the C&C. I will mainly be day-sailing and hanging out on the dock
with a few overnights so I'm thinking the more open cabin might work better
with the kids. comparison pics link below.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5w1TuAY4gTRam1qNlBuWExhSW8
Thanks,
Lisle
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