Hi Kyle, I have a C&C 27 that I have sailed on-and-off for several years (life and work keep getting in the way).
I have had a single burner propane "swing stove" for several years. I tried to fine one like mine online but don't see the exact unit. The first link takes you to one that is available that is close. I think I had the older model, see the second link. I often cook one pot meals on it on overnight sails. I bolted the bracket where I can use the stove under the companionway sliding hatch, hatch open in nice weather or closed when foul. I lift the stove off and store it when not in use. https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HOI-2YrlFs Bob Wooden C&C 27 Mk3 "Rhapsody" -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 141, Issue 120 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Stove (Kyle Davis) 2. Re: Fundraising results (Dennis C.) 3. Re: Fundraising results (John Irvin) 4. Re: Fundraising results (Kevin Driscoll) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:21:13 +0000 From: Kyle Davis <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List Stove Message-ID: <CAHvmr9EJ_1X7mQYxMcO0hN_=nqnbpnz3o51jq0cyjp-_bnm...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello everyone...new owner of a 1977 C&C 26. I have owned a Bayliner sailboat and still have a Catalina 25. Really excited about this C&C, but I?m working on where to install a stove. I?m located in Washington State and coffee is a must. I mostly prepare food on a grill in the cockpit. So I could use a single burner. Just looking for advice and ideas. The boat has never had a name and I?m considering using my first grandson?s name, Killian. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20171026/cc 6c1837/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:25:36 -0500 From: "Dennis C." <[email protected]> To: CnClist <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fundraising results Message-ID: <CANir+yvCbx3uWY0=mjncm6mgsjp-pc_qof+a35odjku7arn...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This virtual C&C community has existed for over 20 years. Many of us have escaped the list's cyber boundaries and meet in the "real" world. What Bill didn't mention was that Sailnet wanted to charge an ongoing fee to all of us. We would also be subject to their advertisements and any future fee increases. After we set up a Yahoo Groups, we found it lacking. Stu stepped up to the plate and offered to maintain what we now call Stu's List. One of the promises Stu made was "no advertising, ever". We like that. It is a community list. Although Stu diligently maintains it, we all feel a deep sense of community and semi-ownership. Although Stu is the "official head knocker in charge", we choose to believe this list is "ours". Not only does this resource make our boats more valuable, the cumulative $$ and aggravation savings are large. Benefiting from the been there, done that of this list is very valuable. The combined experience of our members cover all aspects of our boats; rigging, tuning, structural repairs, engines, electrical and electronics. Well worth throwing a few bucks at Stu. IMHO, if there is an excess, I believe Stu will inform us and apply it to next year's expenses. I, like others, think that if Stu chooses to accept an annual "bonus" of a bottle or two of some fine adult beverage, that's good by me. He deserves it. Enough about this. Send $$$. Dennis C. On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote: > We lived through this discussion a long time ago at very great length. > We do not need to re-litigate it again. We were all originally on a > group hosted by Sailnet. Sailnet changed hands, and we were > essentially left homeless. At that time, we had a long debate about > where to go. Google really didn't exist then. The big player was > Yahoo. There were a few other options, including staying with the new > owners of Sailnet, even though they had dumped our archives. Having > been burned badly by allowing someone else to host us, we were all > very happy to have Stu provide us a stable home, where some outside > bean-counter would never again have the option to exterminate us, and > throw our content in the trash. Stu has done an amazing job all these > years, and at one time mentioned that there was a succession plan in > place. Anyone who thinks this is in any way a "business" for Stu > should just go back out whatever door they came in. He has put an > enormous amount of time and effort into keeping us together, and I > would be shocked if the bottom line has not been a bit of red ink for > him. Stu has formal arrangements for use of the official C&C material > on his website and use of the logo for various items he occasionally > makes available as modest fund raisers. The founders and principal > players of the old C&C have expressed gratitude for Stu's efforts in > keeping their legacy alive. Our old C&C's are also more saleable, and at a higher price, thanks to Stu's generous work. > > Bill Bina > > On 10/26/2017 12:54 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List wrote: > > Stu, Thank you for what you do. No offense intended, but this is my > perspective: > > Mike, > > I have lots of stuff on Google drives. This does not make it Google's > property. This email list, in support of a brand of sailboats, is a > Community of people who share a common passion. I personally do not > think one person should own, control, and profit? from the experiences > shared by many, for free, in support of a brand of sailboats we all love. > > God forbid something happens to Stu, but if it did this list would > evaporate unless there is a succession plan that I am unaware of. Stu > does not own the intellectual property on this list and does not own > any part or version of the actual C&C brand to my knowledge. If > anything we should be sending money to Rob Ball, Cuthbertson's family, > etc. for the designs they labored over and executed so well. > > Cloud storage is *storage*. That's all. > > I have asked twice about what it costs to run the list. An answer > hasn't been provided. > > Thank you. > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 5:26 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> This is stus list and moving to cloud may make it their list. >> >> I have met people through this list that I have later met in person >> who are now friends. I have met people who I have never met in person >> who are friends I have solved engine problems due to input from this >> list and learned that cows do better foredeck work than me. I have learned a lot. >> >> This list is stus and we have all benefited. Moving to cloud makes it >> not stus. I am happy to support for all the c&cs my family and i have >> owned or sailed on and the ones that are not c&c. I believe strongly >> that this list is so good because of Stu >> >> I also wonder if cows live on foredeck in Mexico >> >> Mike Hoyt >> The most consistent not currently c&c poster The biggest interloper >> One of the strongest believers in what Stu has built >> >> 1987 non c&c >> Persistence >> Out of the water today >> Halifax, ns >> _ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up > again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider > sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send > contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All contributions are greatly appreciated! > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20171026/ae ff211d/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:34:18 +0000 From: John Irvin <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fundraising results Message-ID: <dm5pr01mb23634ef40ea994e65d3c4b54ba...@dm5pr01mb2363.prod.exchangelabs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Couldn?t agree more with Bill?s comments. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: We lived through this discussion a long time ago at very great length. We do not need to re-litigate it again. We were all originally on a group hosted by Sailnet. Sailnet changed hands, and we were essentially left homeless. At that time, we had a long debate about where to go. Google really didn't exist then. The big player was Yahoo. There were a few other options, including staying with the new owners of Sailnet, even though they had dumped our archives. Having been burned badly by allowing someone else to host us, we were all very happy to have Stu provide us a stable home, where some outside bean-counter would never again have the option to exterminate us, and throw our content in the trash. Stu has done an amazing job all these years, and at one time mentioned that there was a succession plan in place. Anyone who thinks this is in any way a "business" for Stu should just go back out whatever door they came in. He has put an enormous amount of time and effort into keeping us together, and I would be shocked if the bottom line has not been a bit of red ink for him. Stu has formal arrangements for use of the official C&C material on his website and use of the logo for various items he occasionally makes available as modest fund raisers. The founders and principal players of the old C&C have expressed gratitude for Stu's efforts in keeping their legacy alive. Our old C&C's are also more saleable, and at a higher price, thanks to Stu's generous work. Bill Bina On 10/26/2017 12:54 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List wrote: Stu, Thank you for what you do. No offense intended, but this is my perspective: Mike, I have lots of stuff on Google drives. This does not make it Google's property. This email list, in support of a brand of sailboats, is a Community of people who share a common passion. I personally do not think one person should own, control, and profit? from the experiences shared by many, for free, in support of a brand of sailboats we all love. God forbid something happens to Stu, but if it did this list would evaporate unless there is a succession plan that I am unaware of. Stu does not own the intellectual property on this list and does not own any part or version of the actual C&C brand to my knowledge. If anything we should be sending money to Rob Ball, Cuthbertson's family, etc. for the designs they labored over and executed so well. Cloud storage is storage. That's all. I have asked twice about what it costs to run the list. An answer hasn't been provided. Thank you. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 5:26 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: This is stus list and moving to cloud may make it their list. I have met people through this list that I have later met in person who are now friends. I have met people who I have never met in person who are friends I have solved engine problems due to input from this list and learned that cows do better foredeck work than me. I have learned a lot. This list is stus and we have all benefited. Moving to cloud makes it not stus. I am happy to support for all the c&cs my family and i have owned or sailed on and the ones that are not c&c. I believe strongly that this list is so good because of Stu I also wonder if cows live on foredeck in Mexico Mike Hoyt The most consistent not currently c&c poster The biggest interloper One of the strongest believers in what Stu has built 1987 non c&c Persistence Out of the water today Halifax, ns _ _______________________________________________ The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All contributions are greatly appreciated! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20171026/17 caa209/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:34:49 +0000 From: Kevin Driscoll <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Fundraising results Message-ID: <ca+lfbyr+0msw-jezummoejsrv80xwg37npn+oi7_clqlo8z...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dennis et al, Wouldn't you want to know how *much* it is costing Stu or how *little* he is making so you could send MORE money, to help out? I do so I can send MORE, not less! Continue to pile on all you like. Being informed of the approximate costs (in time and $) would benefit everyone, least of all Stu, since listers would know what it takes and could contribute MORE. Keep em coming. Still loving this list and C&C's ;! On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:26 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote: > This virtual C&C community has existed for over 20 years. Many of us > have escaped the list's cyber boundaries and meet in the "real" world. > > What Bill didn't mention was that Sailnet wanted to charge an ongoing fee > to all of us. We would also be subject to their advertisements and any > future fee increases. After we set up a Yahoo Groups, we found it lacking. > > Stu stepped up to the plate and offered to maintain what we now call > Stu's List. One of the promises Stu made was "no advertising, ever". > We like that. It is a community list. Although Stu diligently > maintains it, we all feel a deep sense of community and > semi-ownership. Although Stu is the "official head knocker in charge", we choose to believe this list is "ours". > > Not only does this resource make our boats more valuable, the > cumulative $$ and aggravation savings are large. Benefiting from the > been there, done that of this list is very valuable. The combined > experience of our members cover all aspects of our boats; rigging, > tuning, structural repairs, engines, electrical and electronics. > > Well worth throwing a few bucks at Stu. IMHO, if there is an excess, > I believe Stu will inform us and apply it to next year's expenses. I, > like others, think that if Stu chooses to accept an annual "bonus" of > a bottle or two of some fine adult beverage, that's good by me. He deserves it. > > Enough about this. Send $$$. > > Dennis C. > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> We lived through this discussion a long time ago at very great >> length. We do not need to re-litigate it again. We were all >> originally on a group hosted by Sailnet. Sailnet changed hands, and >> we were essentially left homeless. At that time, we had a long debate >> about where to go. Google really didn't exist then. The big player >> was Yahoo. There were a few other options, including staying with the >> new owners of Sailnet, even though they had dumped our archives. >> Having been burned badly by allowing someone else to host us, we were >> all very happy to have Stu provide us a stable home, where some >> outside bean-counter would never again have the option to exterminate >> us, and throw our content in the trash. Stu has done an amazing job >> all these years, and at one time mentioned that there was a >> succession plan in place. Anyone who thinks this is in any way a >> "business" for Stu should just go back out whatever door they came >> in. He has put an enormous amount of time and effort into keeping us >> together, and I would be shocked if the bottom line has not been a >> bit of red ink for him. Stu has formal arrangements for use of the >> official C&C material on his website and use of the logo for various >> items he occasionally makes available as modest fund raisers. The >> founders and principal players of the old C&C have expressed >> gratitude for Stu's efforts in keeping their legacy alive. Our old C&C's are also more saleable, and at a higher price, thanks to Stu's generous work. >> >> Bill Bina >> >> On 10/26/2017 12:54 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List wrote: >> >> Stu, Thank you for what you do. No offense intended, but this is my >> perspective: >> >> Mike, >> >> I have lots of stuff on Google drives. This does not make it Google's >> property. This email list, in support of a brand of sailboats, is a >> Community of people who share a common passion. I personally do not >> think one person should own, control, and profit? from the >> experiences shared by many, for free, in support of a brand of sailboats we all love. >> >> God forbid something happens to Stu, but if it did this list would >> evaporate unless there is a succession plan that I am unaware of. Stu >> does not own the intellectual property on this list and does not own >> any part or version of the actual C&C brand to my knowledge. If >> anything we should be sending money to Rob Ball, Cuthbertson's >> family, etc. for the designs they labored over and executed so well. >> >> Cloud storage is *storage*. That's all. >> >> I have asked twice about what it costs to run the list. An answer >> hasn't been provided. >> >> Thank you. >> >> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 5:26 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> This is stus list and moving to cloud may make it their list. >>> >>> I have met people through this list that I have later met in person >>> who are now friends. I have met people who I have never met in >>> person who are friends I have solved engine problems due to input >>> from this list and learned that cows do better foredeck work than me. I have learned a lot. >>> >>> This list is stus and we have all benefited. Moving to cloud makes >>> it not stus. I am happy to support for all the c&cs my family and i >>> have owned or sailed on and the ones that are not c&c. I believe >>> strongly that this list is so good because of Stu >>> >>> I also wonder if cows live on foredeck in Mexico >>> >>> Mike Hoyt >>> The most consistent not currently c&c poster The biggest interloper >>> One of the strongest believers in what Stu has built >>> >>> 1987 non c&c >>> Persistence >>> Out of the water today >>> Halifax, ns >>> _ >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up >> again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider >> sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send >> contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All contributions are greatly appreciated! >> >> > _______________________________________________ > > The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up > again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider > sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send > contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All contributions are greatly appreciated! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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