BTW, my rig failure was a clean bending failure right at the cross bolt for the spreaders and lower shroud tang. The only reason that the upper part of the mast stayed above the deck was the wire main and jib halyards.  This is an area with a pretty high stress riser.  I cant imagine how much more difficult it would have been to deal with if the mast had sunk.  I'm sure we would have had to cut the shrouds and sails and let them sink. Anyone need a 2010 North Main Sail or an older UK 150 Jib?  You cover shipping and they are yours.

Neil Schiller
Old: 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (C&C 35, Mark I)
New: 1983 C&C 35, Mark III, Hull #028
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan

On 11/18/2017 8:12 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List wrote:
I have to agree with Neil.  The rigging is responsible for your primary mode of propulsion, and the forces are signficant.  At least down here in Florida (Tampa area), riggers are pretty inexpensive, and the investment is well worth it for peace of mind.

Just my $.02 worth,
Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+
"Astralis"
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
[email protected]


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*From:* schiller via CnC-List <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Cc:* schiller <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 9:07 PM
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Standing Rigging Question >From a Former C&Cer

From somebody who has lost a rig.  Of all of the things we spend our money on, the rig is one where spending the money on a rigger makes sense.  It is no fun to be bobbing a mile off shore trying to collect rigging and sails in three foot waves, afraid to engage the motor for fear of tangling in lines or sails.  Find a rigger and have him give you advice.

Neil Schiller
Old:  1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (dismasted)
New: 1983 C&C 35, Mark III, #028
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan

On 11/17/2017 8:54 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List wrote:
Thank you for the replies.
After some research it looks like I should use double jaw toggles to connect the eyes of the new shrouds to the eyes in the existing shroud plates.

http://hayn.com/marine/rigging/tj.html#djt

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Yeah I kinda misinterpreted the description. The swadged end
    fittings should be properly attached to a tang which could then
    be through bolted to the mast.


    On Fri, Nov 17, 2017, 8:10 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        You can’t run a bolt through the eye on the end of a shroud.
        The tangs line up the direction of pull, a bolt would be
        getting pulled on at an angle trying to yank the head/nut off
        from one side.
        Joe
        Coquina
        *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-bounces@cnc- list.com
        <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Neil
        Gallagher via CnC-List
        *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 2:23 AM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Cc:* Neil Gallagher
        *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Standing Rigging Question From a
        Former C&Cer
        It's common to have the lowers attach directly to the
        spreader bracket, is it possible that the plate is part of
        the bracket? .   Further, a plain bolt through the mast, when
        tightened, could cause the walls of the mast to bend or
        collapse.  There should be a compression tube inside the mast
        through which the bolt goes to prevent that. On my mast the
        compression tube and bolt are directly in line with the
        spreaders, and the tang plate for the lowers is part of the
        spreader bracket. Attaching the lowers to just a plain bolt
        through the mast doesn't seem advisable.

        Neil Gallagher
        Weatherly, 35-1
        Glen Cove, NY

        On 11/16/2017 9:24 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List wrote:

            Hurricane Irma claimed Ox, my beloved 33-1.
            In its place I now have a 1979 Cal-31.
            I am hoping for some sympathy-advice regarding the
            standing rigging on my new boat.
            Below is the as yet unanswered question I posted on the
            Cal user group site:
            ---
            Greetings,
            My new-to-me 31 came with an oversized, uninstalled,
            brand new set of shrouds.
            The mast ends have beefy eye fittings.
            The existing lowers terminate with jaws that connect to
            rectangular plates (port and stbd) that are bolted
            together through the mast.
            I am wondering if the intent was to do away with the
            plates and run the bolt directly through the four eyes
            (two eyes on each side, of course).  :-)
            Any thoughts or ideas are most welcomed.
            Cheers,
            --Bob M



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