I, too, learned the fish knot as a kid and still use it (for fishing). FWIW, an old friend of mine who is a semi-retired sailmaker and highly regarded sailor told me that he uses bowlines for halyards on his 50-something foot ketch, which he races from time to time on distance races. This is why I asked the question about bowlines, which I use for nearly everything but halyards. Aside from strength and reliability, you can untie bowlines with relative ease even after heavily loading the line.
From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 11:02 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Masthead sheaves C&C 37+ I didn't spend much time comparing resources and references so take it for what it's worth but the website below did some tests and found the bowline reduced strength by ~60% where as the double fish knot broke at ~75%. I'm not sure exactly what a double fish knot is compared to any of the other knots. Interestingly I was always taught that climers and confined space rescuer use a figue eight (reweave or on a bite) instead of a bowline because of its retained strength. It's a interesting read at least. http://caves.org/section/vertical/nh/50/knotrope-hold.html Josh On Thu, Feb 1, 2018, 10:49 PM Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: I couldn’t help but chuckle because I’ve been tying the Halyard Hitch, Jeanneau Variant since I was about 12.. Except what I’ve always used it for is to tie the monofilament leader onto a fly when fly casting. The knot (bend actually) that I learned takes two passes through the eye of the hook and then is tied like the Jeanneau bend. And when I learned it from my Grandfather it was called a fisherman’s bend. And, BTW, one of the reasons the bowline is the most basic knot taught in the US Power Squadron and CG Auxilliary basic seamanship classes is – according to the course material – that it retains around 90% of the strength of the line you are using and is the highest among the common knots and bends. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Davin via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 6:02 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Patrick Davin <jda...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Masthead sheaves C&C 37+ I couldn't help but chuckle that Jeanneau owners are claiming to have invented / named this knot. It's just the halyard hitch with a different finish. So perhaps it should be called halyard hitch, Jeanneau variant? _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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