How's the saying go?  Mistakes are what happens when you don't have
expirience.  Expirience is what you get from making mistakes.

Bruce, I'm glad you chimed in cause all I could think was, There are 2
types of sailors - those who have run aground and those who will.

I've heard advice from world cruisers that in order to afford the life
style you should pay off the boat which allows you to eliminate the
insurance.  The insurance for global waters is evidently quite
prohibitive.  I wouldn't know since mine is limited to the line of
demarcation at the Delaware bay and the line of demarcation for the
Chesapeake Bay.  Though I did easily receive a one time delivery coverage
for 2 weeks when we brought it down from NYC.


On Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 8:24 AM David via CnC-List <>

> I cant help but thinking that given their lack of experience, gear,
> preparation, and age of boat...the fact that they got away alive is a
> blessing.   If not then, it might be next time.  These things do not happen
> in a vacuum and some other event will more than likely befall them again if
> they do not take the time to gain some experience first.
> David F. Risch
> 1981 40-2
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
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> *From:* CnC-List <> on behalf of Bruce
> Whitmore via CnC-List <>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 8:01 AM
> *To:*
> *Cc:* Bruce Whitmore
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Short Cruise!
> I go in & out of John's Pass most weekends, and saw the boat laying on its
> side on Saturday.  Very sad.
> There's a few things I've learned from the local reports, however.
> 1).  The couple was relying on charts to identify the bouys.  That doesn't
> here.  They move the markers in the pass somewhat regularly, as the
> shoaling changes where the sandbars are, and in fact, they just moved the
> bouys more south about a month ago, partially as a response to reports we
> had made to the bridge tender about touching bottom while still in the
> marked channel (we draw 5 feet with the board up).  The current channel is
> way south now of where chart shows the bouys.
> 2).  They came in at night.  Bad move.  During the day, they would have
> had a much better chance of seeing the bouys.  Or, if they had been paying
> attention, they would have seen larger boats going in & out, and seen where
> they were entering & exiting the pass.  The would have also had a chance to
> see the breakers ahead, and known to stand off and reconsider the entrance.
> 3).  They could have called the bridge tender to reconfirm the right
> approach.  They folks who run the bridges are very nice, and would be more
> than happy to help someone understand where the channel is.  I'm even
> somewhat surprised they didn't get a call on the radio warning them away.
> The tender has called me more than once after they moved the markers to
> advise me of the change, and even recommended that I stay 200 yards south
> of the green mark just to be sure.
> As for the keel bolts, I agree they shouldn't have failed during a soft
> grounding.
> It's also bothersome that they didn't have insurance.  I know they were
> broke, but boaters have a responsibility to make sure that there are funds
> for salvage in the case of a total loss.  They can crowdfund all they want,
> but someone's going to be coming after them for the salvage costs.
> As an experienced sailor (20+ years in Chicago on Lake Michigan), I found
> (and am still finding) that I have lots to learn sailing down here in West
> Florida, while sailing here is much less hazardous from a weather
> perspective, the shallows, tides & currents make this part of Florida
> treacherous from a grounding perspective.
> Not trying to pile on the couple for their loss, in fact I feel badly for
> them.
> Just thinking about the lessons that can be learned,
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"
> Madiera Beach, FL
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
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