Perhaps they have changed the design, but the Globe impellers I used for a while on my old Atomic 4 equipped Catalina had a plastic inner ring with a keyway that the shaft went into. That boat was raw water cooled in Lake Michigan, so no heat issues in that pump. The plastic ring cracked in less than a season of use. The shaft started spinning inside it and water flow stopped. I spotted the lack of water exhaust before any real damage got done, but I would need to know they are using metal inner rings before I would consider them again. Jim Reinardy C&C 30-2 "Firewater" Milwaukee, WI --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: Stus-List Fresh Water Conversion Yanmar 3HM From: "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" <[email protected]> Date: 4/30/18 1:56 pm To: "C&C List" <[email protected]> Cc: "Josh Muckley" <[email protected]>
I have a Globe Impeller in my boat and have started using them at work too. They definitely seem to live up to their claims. At work we would routinely destroy even brand new rubber impellers since they would sit for months and be allowed to dry out. Similarly I have gone 4 years between changes on my boat's impeller. I didn't have to replace it when I did but rather chose to and then later discovered some cracks on the vanes. I also run a SpeedSeal Life which I'm sure helps. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 4:28 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: What about those Blue Globe Impellers? They seem much better that the neoprene style of old, and seem to be a silicone blend, or something. They seem to hold up much better, and they also have a hardier Red Impeller, which I believe is intended for Diesel, and I think Higher Temps. Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 3:56 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Chuck Gilchrest Subject: Re: Stus-List Fresh Water Conversion Yanmar 3HM Fred, Mine was Jabsco as well. My engine tech said he's concerned that a Jabsco rubber impeller wouldn't be up to the task of the heat in a circulation pump. Any thoughts there? I suspect it would need to be checked often just like the raw pump impeller. Maybe I just need to inspect the Sendure exchanger for any blockages, change impeller and get the boat in the water. Chuck Gilchrest Half Magic 83 35 LF Padanaram MA Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2018, at 3:04 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: Chuck - my 1979 Landfall 38 (Middletown-built) appears to have come with a factory-installed Sen-Dure heat-exchanger and added circulation pump (a Jabsco, which I have since replaced with another Jabsco, rather than try to rebuild). I also have the challenges of no access (V-drive). - Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 30, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: Silly me. Since I bought my 1983 Landfall 35 a bit over 2 years ago, I had been under the assumption since there was an “expansion tank” on the engine that had coolant in it, that it was a fresh water cooled engine from the factory. It is a Yanmar 3HM 30. No (F) on the engine tag. I had never even bothered to look.. Yeah, the heat exchanger looked a bit different from the one in the Yanmar manual, but since I'd been having a marina commission and decommission my engine each year, changing water pump impellers as necessary (“go ahead and do it”), I thought all was OK. I even had a raw water pump changed out when the old one was demolished due to the “cam” screw backing out and galling the inside of the pump. Turns out there's more going on. Low and behold, this year, when the mechanic looked around the engine, he mentioned that it was the first time he'd ever seen a small diesel with not one but two raw water pumps. As it turns out, the engine appears to have had a fresh water conversion which was made by Sen-Dure, (thus the Sen-Dure expansion tank/heat exchanger) and a second external pump running off a belt. So one of the two coolant pumps is actually a circulation pump (the one down low on the engine) and the other is a raw water pump..the one we replaced last year. Has anyone ever heard of C&C converting engines from Raw to Fresh at the factory (Barry Carroll, Middletown RI built boat), or is it more likely an owner conversion? My mechanic says that the rubber impeller on a raw water pump will never hold up to the heat of the interior engine coolant and will always burn up impellers prematurely if I keep things as they are. At one point Yanmar made a fresh water conversion kit for 3HM engines, but very unlikely there would be any availability considering the motor hasn't been built since 1983. This engine is somewhat dastardly in that it is installed backwards with a V-Drive, making access to the “front” of the motor a really tough job. Right now, I'm at a crossroads which involves: Finding a suitable circulation pump that is up to the job for the existing system, since I just de-scaled the heat exhchanger and bought a new stainless mixing elbow Finding the needed parts to do a Yanmar factory Fresh water conversion Keep the boat out of the water this year and save up to re-power. Lavishing multiple thousands at a 36 year old diesel may not be the best way to spend money. Any suggestions would be welcome.. Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35 Padanaram, MA _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. 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