Thanks for everyone’s input. You gave me a lot to chew on. Does anyone have the tork specifications for the keel bolts and the size of the nut and is it metric.
Thanks Ray. > On May 7, 2018, at 9:35 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 1985 C&C 33 Bilge Issue (Bruno Lachance) > 2. Toerail rebedding (Eugene Fodor) > 3. Re: Question about anchor light (Chuck S) > 4. TV antenna (Chuck S) > 5. Re: C&C 33 MK II Bilge pumps (Neil Gallagher) > 6. Re: TV antenna (Edd Schillay) > 7. Re: TV antenna (Chuck S) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 19:27:59 +0000 > From: Bruno Lachance <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List 1985 C&C 33 Bilge Issue > Message-ID: > > <bn6pr04mb1108329e235c979915282e48fb...@bn6pr04mb1108.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Mike, > > The story began with a small crack at the top aft of the sump, in front of > the aft keel bolt, on which the wascher and nut was also sinking a bit. I > starded grinding the area . I ended up grinding the gel coat around the sump > and then yes, I added layers of 1708 cloth with epoxy. > > The best job would have been to drop the keel and add multiple layers from > one side to the others covering the bottom. What I did was less labor > intensive. After sanding I added layers to the sump going from maybe 6-8 > inches on each side of the sump ( flat secto the bottom of the walls. I also > strengthened the stringers in this area alternating my layers to better > spread the loads. The stringer that bridges the sump was very thin. > > It is a bit hard to describe, hope you get the idea. > > The mast step is next job on the list. Next fall. Will do it like another > lister did on his 33. Can?t remember the name right now. > > Obtenez Outlook pour iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ________________________________ > From: CnC-List <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael Crombie > via CnC-List <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 1:47:10 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Michael Crombie > Subject: Re: Stus-List 1985 C&C 33 Bilge Issue > > Hi Ray, > > I had the same problem with my 33. I think it was due to 2 issues...1. The > PO had a hard grounding at some point and 2 the 33 mkii mast steps need to > be strengthened. My mast was compressing the step. > > Your description matches mine exactly...water seeping in the side walls of > the bilge. > > Anyway, i was able to sail for a season, but at the end of the season I > sailed straight over to a good yard. They rebuilt the mast step, dropped the > keel, and did some other repairs. This was $$. After the job i still had a > tiny bit of ingress, but i sanded all around where the repair work was done, > barrier coated it and now have a dry bilge. > > Bruno has got me thinking about strenghening the bilge. How did you do this > Bruno? Did you you lay down a few layers of glass cloth? > > Mike > > > On Mon, May 7, 2018, 9:33 AM Raymond Macklin via CnC-List, > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Hello: > > It is that time of season for the big Splash. I have run into an issue since > I put it in the water. My bilge pump is running continuously. I took a > close look and I am noticing the water is seeping in from the walls of the > bilge. Prior to launching I took a real close look at the keel. I saw no > issues, no smile, nothing. The only part I did notice was the very bottom of > the keel. Since the keel rests on the bottom of the cradle, I cannot do much > inspection prior. This time I happen to see it while on the lift. I was not > a smooth like the sides of the keel. In fact it was not good at all. Does > that sound right. I see now water coming from any other area. Anybody have > an recommendations on what to do? > > Ray > LakeHouse > Milwaukee WI. > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180507/cdc54abd/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 16:39:00 -0500 > From: Eugene Fodor <[email protected]> > To: cnc-list <[email protected]> > Subject: Stus-List Toerail rebedding > Message-ID: > <cabcoe4dw0n7qemre5d4-axjt1+ochwty2tjkh6kjyr172yx...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi All, > > On my C&C 29 mk II, I believe I'm getting leaks from the toerail holes. > Have any of you performed rebedding? Looking for any advise you might have. > > I found this article http://www.islander36.org/toerails.html on rebedding > and am wondering if the process would be the same on my boat. Some of the > things he does that I didn't think about is driving temporary screws > through the deck-hull joint to make sure the deck doesn't pop off. I > believe the bedding compound on the deck hull joint is still good, so I > believe all I need to do is remove the toe rail, clean it up and then > rebed. I'm not sure if I should use 5200 or butyl tape. Thoughts? > > Thanks, > > Gene Fodor > "Hawk" -- C&C 29 mk II > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180507/97a5fa2c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 19:36:26 -0400 (EDT) > From: Chuck S <[email protected]> > To: Francois Rivard <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Question about anchor light > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Responding late to the discussion. My mast is out so I am replacing all the > light fixtures and wiring and selected MarineBeam's Anchor > Light/tri-color/Strobe Combo that works with two wires. > https://store.marinebeam.com/smart-led-tri-color-anchor-light-and-strobe-n3-tri-cmb/ > I tested the light and it is very very bright and works just like they claim > and the strobe flashes S-O-S. Lots of features for $109 and it seems very > well made. We'll see how it holds up. > > Replaced the VHF antenna wire too. > > >> On May 7, 2018 at 1:34 PM Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks. >> Still thinking a white anchor light, but you reflect my experience, at >> the last minute I started thinking just change it out. >> >> Matt >> >> >>>> On May 7, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Francois Rivard >>>> <[email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote: >>> >>> Hi Matt, >>> >>> When I took my mast down I took a good look at the brittle dried-up >>> housing, crazed plastic lens, and iffy led conversion on the existing unit >>> and threw it in the trash. I replaced it with the SignalMate tricolor >>> (https://signalmate.com/navigation-light-models/combination-tri-color-with-anchor-2-wire/) >>> >>> They claim it's made to mil specs... I believe it. It's completely >>> sealed, the machining and anodizing on the housing is beautiful, and the >>> lens is nice and thick. >>> >>> It's pricey but to me, worth every penny as it is completely >>> "install it and forget it". Living in Georgia my mast does not come down >>> very often so no maintenance is a big plus. As a bonus it's by far the >>> brightest mast light on the lake, I consider it cheap insurance against >>> drunken pontoon pilots. >>> >>> Good luck with the project. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> -Francois Rivard >>> 1990 34+ "Take Five" >>> Lake Lanier, GA >>> >>> >>> >>>> >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180507/59e5c9c9/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 19:40:03 -0400 (EDT) > From: Chuck S <[email protected]> > To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <[email protected]> > Subject: Stus-List TV antenna > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hey guys, > > > I am rewiring the mast and lighting and VHF antenna and wonder if I should > pull in a TV antenna cable? Does anyone have one that works well? I get 35 > channels with a leaf antenna I lay on the deck, but it sometimes pixelates > just when the comedian says the punchline. Can be frustrating. > > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180507/8611e467/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 20:48:44 -0400 > From: Neil Gallagher <[email protected]> > To: Eric Frank via CnC-List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 33 MK II Bilge pumps > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > https://www.whalepumps.com/marine/product.aspx?Category_ID=10009&Product_ID=10005&FriendlyID=Mk-5-Universal > > My solution to the corroded Whale pump.? Been working well for about 4 > years now. > > Neil Gallagher > Weatherly, 35-1 > Glen Cove, NY > >> On 5/7/2018 2:06 PM, Eric Frank via CnC-List wrote: >> Corrosion is precisely the reason my Whale manual bilge pump is working so >> poorly. In the 9 years I have owned Cats Paw, I have replaced the rubber >> flapper valves 3 times - most recently last year. But this no longer solves >> the corrosion problem of the metal pump, which keeps the flapper valves from >> closing well. I also installed a one-way rubber flap valve on the intake of >> the hose to facilitate priming the pump, but that has been insufficient to >> solve the problem caused by corrosion of the pump itself. >> >> A similar pump (also a Whale I think) continues to work well. One reason is >> that the pump (under the washstand) is not located above the holding tank, >> but from Dennis?s description, it probably also helps that we use ?fresh? >> water from the water tank to flush the head, so salt water never remains in >> the pump. And, of course, most of our sailing is not far offshore, so the >> holding tank is pumped out by the boatyard launch. >> >> Are there other brands of manual pumps I could replace the Whale pump with >> that do not have this problem? Perhaps made of a corrosion-resistant >> material? That might be a better, and more permanent solution. >> >> Eric Frank >> Cat?s Paw, CC35 II >> Mattapoisett, MA >> >>> Hot button rant! >>> >>> If any lister has an alloy (metal) body Whale or other brand manual bilge >>> pump, I *STRONGLY* suggest you disassemble it and inspect the sealing >>> surfaces. These pumps, particularly when in salt or brackish water >>> service, are subject to corrosion and pitting. If the corrosion is severe, >>> the pump may not prime or pump. >>> >>> When I bought Touche', I inspected the pump and found it to be essentially >>> unusable due to severe pitting and corrosion on the sealing surfaces. A >>> service kit would have been worthless. I bought a new pump. Before >>> installing the new pump, I disassembled it, coated the sealing surfaces >>> with TefGel and reassembled. >>> >>> Kevin Benoit just bought a 35-2 and ran into the same issue. He also >>> bought a new pump and coated the surfaces. >>> >>> I clean Touche's bilge about twice a year. I use the electric pump to >>> empty the bilge until the water is clean dock (city) water. I then test >>> the manual bilge pump and use it to empty the bilge leaving clean dock >>> water in the pump. >>> >>> If, for whatever reason, I use the manual pump to remove brackish or salt >>> water from the bilge, I flush the bilge with dock water and leave dock >>> water in the manual pump. >>> >>> Please test your manual pump at least annually and inspect it if you've >>> never done so. This pump may not only save your boat, it may save you and >>> your family!! >>> >>> Dennis C. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >> every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 22:11:25 -0400 > From: Edd Schillay <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List TV antenna > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Chuck, > > Maybe it?s because we are so close to NYC, but I know a few people who have > those $20-$30 HDTV antennas that stick to a hatch. They work well for them. > > All the best, > > Edd > > ----------------------------------- > Edd M. Schillay > Captain of the Starship Enterprise > C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B > City Island, New York > www.StarshipSailing.com > ----------------------------------- > 914.774.9767 | Mobile > ----------------------------------- > Sent via iPhone X > iPhone. iTypos. iApologize > > > On May 7, 2018, at 7:40 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > I am rewiring the mast and lighting and VHF antenna and wonder if I should > pull in a TV antenna cable? Does anyone have one that works well? I get 35 > channels with a leaf antenna I lay on the deck, but it sometimes pixelates > just when the comedian says the punchline. Can be frustrating. > > > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180507/d72d8d11/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 22:32:52 -0400 (EDT) > From: Chuck S <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List TV antenna > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Edd, > > I am near Baltimore and as I stated earlier, "I get 35 channels with a leaf > antenna I lay on the deck, but it sometimes pixelates just when the comedian > says the punchline. Can be frustrating." I was wondering if a mast mounted > TV antenna was worth the trouble. > > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > >> On May 7, 2018 at 10:11 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Chuck, >> >> Maybe it?s because we are so close to NYC, but I know a few people who >> have those $20-$30 HDTV antennas that stick to a hatch. They work well for >> them. >> >> All the best, >> >> Edd >> >> ----------------------------------- >> Edd M. Schillay >> Captain of the Starship Enterprise >> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >> City Island, New Yorkhttp://www.StarshipSailing.com >> ----------------------------------- >> 914.774.9767 | Mobile >> ----------------------------------- >> Sent via iPhone X >> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize >> >> >> On May 7, 2018, at 7:40 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List <[email protected] >> mailto:[email protected] > wrote: >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> >> I am rewiring the mast and lighting and VHF antenna and wonder if I >> should pull in a TV antenna cable? Does anyone have one that works well? I >> get 35 channels with a leaf antenna I lay on the deck, but it sometimes >> pixelates just when the comedian says the punchline. Can be frustrating. >> >> >> Chuck >> Resolute >> 1990 C&C 34R >> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. 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