Its not a matter of whether or not the boat is faster.  Its a matter of
achieving the highest velocity made good.  In my experience even on courses
where the mark is directly down wind the symmetrical spinnaker boats will
keep the wind slightly to one side.  Yes you may have to gybe but the
overall speed (vmg or cs) is faster.  As part of this decision you have to
consider crew competence, time until next, and your own experience with the
boat.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD





On Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 6:54 PM David Knecht via CnC-List <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I guess my real question is whether the boat is faster dead downwind with
> the whisker pole or tacking downwind at the polar angle optimum.  I have
> always used the whisker pole and the shorter distance, and have not yet
> tried the other route.  Has anyone tested this themselves?  Dave
>
> On Jun 30, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Polars presume a spinnaker at the crossover point where the chute is
> faster than jib & main.
> As for downwind speed, the Marchaj (sp?) book has data to back the old
> theory that if you reverse your best beat upwind, you will be going the
> same speed downwind.
> When the wind speed increases to the point of reefing or smaller jibs, all
> bets are off on that theory.  Then wing & wing will often be faster.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30-1
> STL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Knecht via CnC-List <[email protected]>
> To: CnC CnC discussion list <[email protected]>
> Cc: David Knecht <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, Jun 30, 2018 7:48 am
> Subject: Stus-List downwind polars
>
> The polars for my boat predict an optimal downwind speed at an angle
> around 145° true.   Does anyone know what assumptions are made in this
> prediction about spinnakers and whisker poles?  I race non-spinnaker and
> often on windward-leeward courses so we are often dead downwind and the
> whisker pole makes a huge difference going downwind wing on wing.  I am
> wondering if the polars take this into account.  Dave
>
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
>
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