John, It does take a little coaxing to drop and, thanks to the zippers at the mast, I can get my hands in there to do it. For a little more money (just like everything else on a boat — a little more money) you can get a slide track system (Tides Track), which will make the hoisting and dropping much much easier. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq0fScPkaGs <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq0fScPkaGs> and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0iFS1L-B6U <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0iFS1L-B6U>
Perhaps one day — need to get my wife away from the Neeman Marcus website first. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> On Jul 9, 2018, at 2:31 PM, John Conklin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Ed, I also want this stay pack on my 37 ! Is a specific bat car recommended for main sail i have the old pladtic tees although it works main would not just drop into stay packed if I let the main halyard go takes a little coaxing, And I assume the idea is to be able to do it from the cockpit? What about reefing with this setup no change right? Thanks ! and nice Ride !! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:06 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > Edd: > > Some of your pictures show the Stack Pack, but in the racing pictures it's > not there. Is the pack easily removable for racing? I have a loose footed > main. > > Alan Bergen > 35 Mk III Thirsty > Rose City YC > Portland, OR > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List > Sent: July-09-18 8:11 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Edd Schillay > Subject: Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations? > > > > Chuck, > > > > While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had my > 1990 C&C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C&C 34) and can’t > say enough about how wonderful a boat it is. > > > > SAILING > > She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better > than pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135% > jib to be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and can > easily hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib alone > (Pic > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__3.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-5FpUcUZefrfY_UG2byO27YdI_AAAAAAAABlk_VKt3WcYZ9Mw_s1600_Day1Sailing.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DWQmAWS_HPlrmfc8w3cwQoz67lQ8MFnGoLeiHRY7c_xU%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854&sdata=XFSFZSTOj5j6FOzXuSyMSeYswIao0jbKQJjffCn1lVI%3D&reserved=0>). > Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest > installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1 > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-2Drq4wL9px58_WzKrXnRU01I_AAAAAAAACkY_EXHBCCqq2VYx1quwGz6VDIPiAzbczsIBACLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1799.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DLfV0LVDnyqFeFlHAC6sdNar-2eW4-Tngwelh6Ai2jJY%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854&sdata=v4xalD3KDNQkmobZ0YX1i%2BniOrgxrSKnv97dL3O6Z6w%3D&reserved=0> > | Pic 2 > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2D33ZcliySMzU_WzKrX6K-5FjeI_AAAAAAAACkc_P5owuAsTLfQxP0NMz-2D5Qn5h7UR-2DodJVwQCLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1800.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DbuSNaq333v4kiDQCsjW8GRj8x6cnYkcCFSI7f2Uq9Xw%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854&sdata=34XoSKZ7XuoKzRpwX%2B8wkSLsK3vyG7n4%2BBL4PEDaOXs%3D&reserved=0>) > as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can be > a multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties (Pic > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D4EYiOA4Hduw_UmPsvAdxjvI_AAAAAAAACDI_yUNXs-2Dg6U3Q_s1600_sailsdown.JPG%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3Dpz05sSNB6YBkLPioOQaJNq7ozBUrtfBR90kKB4OaYjo%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854&sdata=JB3kxeRcSNwt1d3DfuGCQMneO8fWSTAXeGkMAHIX5J8%3D&reserved=0>). > > > > ACCOMODATIONS > > She is simply a cruiser’s dream. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about > monohulls is that it feels like you’re in a basement. Not true with the 37/40 > series. It’s light, airy and very comfortable. The V-berth forward cabin in > spacious with LOTS of storage, the main cabin bright, has great ventilation, > and between the starboard-side u-shaped seating (Pic > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_spvg3fycdx4191r_IMG-5F0810.JPG-3Fdl-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3Dc7RH6aomOEuwP2LMJHbjDWikZ3vp4cKVXH5Enhhk3YM%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854&sdata=kfCOWZaOYRV1TR%2BVR75kc2qMheZIYs8slvSrE8gQrCg%3D&reserved=0>), > the port-side bench seating (Pic > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_zz6yi3vt4vi8kkq_IMG-5F0811.JPG-3Fdl-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3D8RRdbwhbWfOKLobH8gM8UfCoD1kzgB6lwO7pmXS3-cc%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705578118&sdata=CLIJnPBMbJZNy6ITyBXPFYKGe%2Fbsb2L%2BR3YNN2AE7xc%3D&reserved=0>), > the nav table and the L-shaped galley, you won’t be bumping into each other. > The head is bigger than some cruise-ship bathrooms with a separate enclosed > shower stall (with seat too!) and that aft cabin with the centerline island > queen bed is just phenomenal (Pic > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2DXyGMCtYJiI0_WcP2LVtir0I_AAAAAAAAChg_w3hLq4shrigv5u01cWeoghTnzlOhvt9UgCLcBGAs_s1600_bed.JPG%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DHgs7vtBApfuGpav10LE4xCZxOHBZ50QGu8md3dpiJnw%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705578118&sdata=eOGcNZEHzjBj0iZbMWst74TCDEyctg4bgtLmlvBoNJ4%3D&reserved=0>). > She will be the envy of all your friends and, if you’re lucky, you may get a > white-bearded C&C 30 MkII owner come aboard and say things like “I f-in hate > you” and who tells other C&C’ers “Don’t go back there” when they start > inching towards your aft cabin. > > > > MAINTENANCE > > What’s better on a boat than doing projects and customizing? I’m often amazed > at how much access there is to wiring and other systems. And engine access is > on three-sides (some have added a fourth side hatch in their head) making > engine work pretty easy with less blood-covered knuckles. > > > > Some additional under-sail (racing) photos (Pic1 > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_jk70wtpocxhm5m0_Scan10043.JPG-3Fdl-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3Dh3Kfqn_fWuVAI1Fcm6irU6HZRM5arHfcwpkVHnoiKWU%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705578118&sdata=0hs3bR83MXKm94w90wobHZwTTymU9iDtynlMcOO8sQc%3D&reserved=0> > | Pic2 > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_efsjhnkw3qvw5dj_Scan10041.JPG-3Fdl-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DddB36FekkGkXDjHLW4Gc90wJsO9dpNzQUUwOXtAiqeY%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705578118&sdata=u0TNdpvaNVCAO84l%2F1MPZALuCHeKy5OlRmONVc2NHK0%3D&reserved=0> > | Pic 3 > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_k1exc0yuzn6fq9m_race1-2Draw-2Dcloseup.png-3Fdl-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3Ds4Rbdg-_Xv3gw5oHrkbCwGLaXdhv01IkfCxGEegNoQs%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705578118&sdata=SLb6YGOeRj9t4Ytnthksc2PmppH6564sa%2B%2BW90RlMos%3D&reserved=0> > | Pic 4 > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_ieixco4khf11gf8_DownwindFinish.jpg-3Fdl-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DS3yUUou5MKD80iwiEkXHLpUBX8UcGouh6skGgMPu1-I%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705578118&sdata=isXak%2BTccRX6DSphwBoEOBexQtarYTLulQth0jbrYuM%3D&reserved=0>) > > > > Seriously, it’s such an amazing boat that, even after 25 years, the designer > can’t help but stare (Pic > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_pdlqr438yyab1c9_Ball.png-3Fdl-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3Djumz13M_J12bcTRuB3RGBYSbeF7DNbNU1R1gW5yBBhg%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705578118&sdata=u2HzG%2FetR4N6rR%2BZibvCfFNIheXs8HdjDtt83gcMH%2FI%3D&reserved=0>) > > > > > Feel free to contact me off list should you need any specific info or > insights. > > > All the best, > > > > Edd > > > > > > Edd M. 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