John,

It does take a little coaxing to drop and, thanks to the zippers at the mast, I 
can get my hands in there to do it. For a little more money (just like 
everything else on a boat — a little more money) you can get a slide track 
system (Tides Track), which will make the hoisting and dropping much much 
easier. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq0fScPkaGs 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq0fScPkaGs> and 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0iFS1L-B6U 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0iFS1L-B6U> 

Perhaps one day — need to get my wife away from the Neeman Marcus website 
first. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>





On Jul 9, 2018, at 2:31 PM, John Conklin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Ed, I also want this stay pack on my 37 !  Is a specific bat car recommended 
for main sail  i have the old pladtic tees although it works main would not 
just drop into stay packed if I let the main halyard go takes a little coaxing, 
And I assume the idea is to be able to do it from the cockpit?
What about reefing with this setup no change right?
Thanks ! and nice Ride !!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:06 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

> Edd:
> 
> Some of your pictures show the Stack Pack, but in the racing pictures it's 
> not there.  Is the pack easily removable for racing? I have a loose footed 
> main.
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List
> Sent: July-09-18 8:11 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Edd Schillay
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?
> 
>  
> 
> Chuck,
> 
>  
> 
> While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had my 
> 1990 C&C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C&C 34) and can’t 
> say enough about how wonderful a boat it is.
> 
>  
> 
> SAILING
> 
> She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better 
> than pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135% 
> jib to be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and can 
> easily hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib alone 
> (Pic 
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__3.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-5FpUcUZefrfY_UG2byO27YdI_AAAAAAAABlk_VKt3WcYZ9Mw_s1600_Day1Sailing.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DWQmAWS_HPlrmfc8w3cwQoz67lQ8MFnGoLeiHRY7c_xU%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854&sdata=XFSFZSTOj5j6FOzXuSyMSeYswIao0jbKQJjffCn1lVI%3D&reserved=0>).
>  Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest 
> installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1 
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>  | Pic 2 
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2D33ZcliySMzU_WzKrX6K-5FjeI_AAAAAAAACkc_P5owuAsTLfQxP0NMz-2D5Qn5h7UR-2DodJVwQCLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1800.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DbuSNaq333v4kiDQCsjW8GRj8x6cnYkcCFSI7f2Uq9Xw%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854&sdata=34XoSKZ7XuoKzRpwX%2B8wkSLsK3vyG7n4%2BBL4PEDaOXs%3D&reserved=0>)
>  as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can be 
> a multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties (Pic 
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D4EYiOA4Hduw_UmPsvAdxjvI_AAAAAAAACDI_yUNXs-2Dg6U3Q_s1600_sailsdown.JPG%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3Dpz05sSNB6YBkLPioOQaJNq7ozBUrtfBR90kKB4OaYjo%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854&sdata=JB3kxeRcSNwt1d3DfuGCQMneO8fWSTAXeGkMAHIX5J8%3D&reserved=0>).
> 
>  
> 
> ACCOMODATIONS
> 
> She is simply a cruiser’s dream. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about 
> monohulls is that it feels like you’re in a basement. Not true with the 37/40 
> series. It’s light, airy and very comfortable. The V-berth forward cabin in 
> spacious with LOTS of storage, the main cabin bright, has great ventilation, 
> and between the starboard-side u-shaped seating (Pic 
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_spvg3fycdx4191r_IMG-5F0810.JPG-3Fdl-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3Dc7RH6aomOEuwP2LMJHbjDWikZ3vp4cKVXH5Enhhk3YM%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854&sdata=kfCOWZaOYRV1TR%2BVR75kc2qMheZIYs8slvSrE8gQrCg%3D&reserved=0>),
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>  the nav table and the L-shaped galley, you won’t be bumping into each other. 
> The head is bigger than some cruise-ship bathrooms with a separate enclosed 
> shower stall (with seat too!) and that aft cabin with the centerline island 
> queen bed is just phenomenal (Pic 
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2DXyGMCtYJiI0_WcP2LVtir0I_AAAAAAAAChg_w3hLq4shrigv5u01cWeoghTnzlOhvt9UgCLcBGAs_s1600_bed.JPG%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DHgs7vtBApfuGpav10LE4xCZxOHBZ50QGu8md3dpiJnw%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705578118&sdata=eOGcNZEHzjBj0iZbMWst74TCDEyctg4bgtLmlvBoNJ4%3D&reserved=0>).
>  She will be the envy of all your friends and, if you’re lucky, you may get a 
> white-bearded C&C 30 MkII owner come aboard and say things like “I f-in hate 
> you” and who tells other C&C’ers “Don’t go back there” when they start 
> inching towards your aft cabin. 
> 
>  
> 
> MAINTENANCE
> 
> What’s better on a boat than doing projects and customizing? I’m often amazed 
> at how much access there is to wiring and other systems. And engine access is 
> on three-sides (some have added a fourth side hatch in their head) making 
> engine work pretty easy with less blood-covered knuckles. 
> 
>  
> 
> Some additional under-sail (racing) photos (Pic1 
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>  | Pic 3 
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>  | Pic 4 
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_ieixco4khf11gf8_DownwindFinish.jpg-3Fdl-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DS3yUUou5MKD80iwiEkXHLpUBX8UcGouh6skGgMPu1-I%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705578118&sdata=isXak%2BTccRX6DSphwBoEOBexQtarYTLulQth0jbrYuM%3D&reserved=0>)
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> Seriously, it’s such an amazing boat that, even after 25 years, the designer 
> can’t help but stare (Pic 
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> Feel free to contact me off list should you need any specific info or 
> insights. 
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> All the best,
> 
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> Edd
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> Edd M. Schillay
> 
> Starship Enterprise
> 
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> 
> City Island, NY 
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