Thanks Neil,
I wil give Ray a shout and see what he suggests. She took a shot to the nose before we got her but I can?t leave the pulpit alone. Seriously detracts from her appearance. Nothing structural mind you, just needs a nose job..... lol
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1. Re: Colregs question for boats not in an organized race
(Rick Brass)
2. C&C 1990 37+ bow pulpit repair (Bob Tallman)
3. Re: Colregs question for boats not in an organized race
(Rick Brass)
4. Re: 1982 C&C 25 (Mark G)
5. Re: C&C 1990 37+ bow pulpit repair (Neil Gallagher)
6. cowl vents (Bev Parslow)
7. cowl vents (Bev Parslow)
8. Re: 37+ Rudder Bearing (Josh Muckley)
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:09:17 -0400
From: "Rick Brass" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Colregs question for boats not in an organized
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Keep in mind that NONE of these boats was actually racing. There was no official or approved event happening as defined by the RRS.
So, the COLREGS are the only thing that matters.
P was planning to avoid S, as he is required to do. S took action to avoid what he perceived as a chance of collision, as he is required to do under rule 2.
What did not happen is that S took action to avoid collision early and significantly enough that the action is obvious to S, which he is required to do under one of the later rule (16 or 17?).
If this were a serious accident, an admiralty court would find both at fault, with the majority of the fault allocated to P. If there was a death, there would likely be charges.
Most of us are not required to have a copy of the COLREGS on their boat, but everyone should take the time to read and understand them?. Including all that boring crap about lights, day shapes, and sound signals.
Rick Brass
Washington, NC
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Subject: Stus-List Colregs question for boats not in an organized race
This can be a real issue between racers and never-racers. Forget racing, just imagine you are on starboard. You have never raced a boat in your life and you think being within 50 yards of another boat is very close. I have raced my whole life and think clearing your stern (or bow) by 12 inches is a day that ends in Y. I aim to clear astern of you by whole 6 feet! This is a huge gap to me and to you looks like you are being attacked by a maniac and might do any random thing to ?get away from the crazy person trying to run me over? and end up turning right in front of me.
The non-racer on starboard that tacked at the last second was in the wrong, but one should make a hail to let non involved boats know you see them and will clear them.
IMHO
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:18:45 -0400
From: Bob Tallman <[email protected]>
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:21:32 -0400
From: "Rick Brass" <[email protected]>
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There is a definition of what constitutes a ?Race?. IIRC it is in one of the appendices to the RRS, and it requires a sponsoring organization that is part of the ?national authority?.
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Colregs question for boats not in an organized race
Based on a quick review, I did not see a provision expressly limiting the scope of the Rules to only official races affiliated with a national authority (although this is implied). To the contrary, Section 3.1 simply provides ?By participating or intending to participate in a race conducted under these rules, each competitor and boat owner agrees to accept these rules.?
Interesting question if the Rules apply where two skippers familiar with them decide to participate in an informal race.
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:26:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark G <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Stus-List 1982 C&C 25
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I looked at a few C&C 25 Mk 2's before I bought my Mk 1.
Some of the early C&C 25 Mk 2's had an issue where that arch over the door in the cabin supports the mast step. I believe there was a recall to reinforce the area and then at some point in the production run a design change.
With an extra long shaft outboard (25 inch) and a properly located bracket you won't have a problem with the prop coming out of the water. I have a 6 hp Tohatsu 4-stroke extra long shaft. You will have to raise and tilt the outboard to keep the prop from dragging when sailing, though.
Under the best of circumstances an outboard on a transom bracket is a PITA. The extra long shaft outboard is a bit heavier than long shaft models, so don't go with any larger of a power head than you need. I basically only use my outboard to get home if the wind dies when I'm out sailing. There can be a significant weight difference among different outboard brands for the same hp rating. You might even consider trying to find a used 2-stroke, as they're considerably lighter. Don't skimp on the bracket. Get a heavy duty bracket with the spring assist or even the bracket with hydraulic assist.
Other than the outboard transom bracket, both the 25 Mk 1 and Mk2 are great boats.
Mark
'73 C&C 25 Mk 1
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> Hi all,
> New to the group.? I am going to look at a fresh water C&C 25 built in 1982 a second time and wondered about any ideas of what to look for that is specific to this model.? I believe this boat has a cored deck and cored hull, so will look for any respective issues with water intrusion, deformities, etc.? Boat has been sitting for past 8 years (indoors) so assume it may be difficult to identify and wet areas of decking, but will look for any cracking or deformities around stanchions, fittings, mast step, etc.?
> Boat has a 15hp OMC saildrive which needs a rebuild (seized) , so thinking strongly of removing that and filling in the hole and going with outboard.? (engine is already out, but drive is stil in).? ?
> Interested in any other thoughts on potential problem areas to check out.
> Thanks!?
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:34:30 -0400
From: Neil Gallagher <[email protected]>
To: Bob Tallman via CnC-List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 1990 37+ bow pulpit repair
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Bob,
Judging by your area code, you're in Suffolk County (Long Island); I've
had very good work from Mariah Metals in Hicksville.
https://mariahmetal.com/services.html
(If you do contact them, tell Ray I say hello.)
Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY
On 9/23/2018 10:18 PM, Bob Tallman via CnC-List wrote:
> Good evening,
>
> I have a 1990 C&C 37+ with bent pulpit.
> Does anyone have knowledge of a repair shop or fabricator that can assist?
> Thanks.
> --
> Regards,
>
> Bob Tallman
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 03:42:26 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bev Parslow <[email protected]>
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after loosing 2 vents on 2 weekends I drilled some holes and tied them down. Since then, no more lost.
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 03:42:26 +0000 (UTC)
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after loosing 2 vents on 2 weekends I drilled some holes and tied them down. Since then, no more lost.
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 08:24:38 +0200
From: Josh Muckley <[email protected]>
To: "C&C List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ Rudder Bearing
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I removed my quadrant to rebuild the rudder. There was nothing
particularly difficult about it. The steering cables will inevitably slip
off the sheaves at the base of the steering pedestal. They can be worked
back on with a helper. If you haven't replaced/inspected the sheave plate
this is definitely the best opportunity.
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 12:45 AM Gary Russell via CnC-List <
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> Thank you Mike. There is plenty of room to get at my quadrant, but I'm
> sure that getting the quadrant off will be miserable. Thanks for your
> input.
> Gary
> A/V Kaylarah
> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
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> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:53 AM mike amirault via CnC-List <
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>> I replaced the rudder bushings on my C&C33II last year. Looking at the
>> drawings, I believe your 37 had the same build. Once you get the quadrant
>> off (bolts will probably break off no matter how much heat/penetrating oil
>> you use) drop the rudder. You will probably have to dig a hole in order to
>> get the rudder out unless you have a really tall cradle. The top bushing is
>> easy to get out but the bottom one I got out by hammering on a pipe at an
>> angle from the inside to catch the top edge of the delrin bushing.
>>
>> Once I had the bushings out, I took careful measurements and had a local
>> machine shop make new delrin sleeves. Make sure they don?t make the sleeves
>> too tight or you could get some binding as I did and then I had to sand it
>> down a bit. Hardest part was getting the quadrant off, it?s very limited
>> space back there and I had to remove the fuel tank to get at it, hopefully
>> your 37 has more room. Good luck.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Amirault
>>
>> C&C33ii Lovely Cruise
>>
>> SMSC
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