Paul,

I spent a lot of time in your neck of the woods in the early 80's while working on the Paveway III Laser Guided Bomb.  The Air Force was adamant that we make our shipping containers have pressure relief valves (burp valves).  We took empty shipping containers (Hellfire shipping containers) and put them in the parking lot of Eglin AFB Building 999 for a month in the summer.  At the end of the month, we open the containers up and poured the water out. Every afternoon the containers would heat up enough to open the burp valve to equalize the pressure.  In the evening, as the container cooled, the valve would reopen and suck in the nice cool, humid air that would condense in the container.  There was about a half an inch of water in the container after a month.

The Army lost a bunch of Hellfire missiles during Desert Storm after shipping them on an open deck.  When they got to Kuwait, they were full of water.

I fill my tank just before haul out.  There is a little fuel used to change oil, get to the haul out well and for winterizing.  I have never had the tank overflow during storage.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 10/25/2018 5:33 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List wrote:
I’m not in total disagreement, but the urban myth may be more of a Great White North myth. In that, when it gets cold out it stays cold until spring.  But otherwise, when it get cold at night and warms up in the day, it best to keep the tank either full or empty.

The reason is that a metal tank with some liquid will dehumidify the air inside (and outside) the tank during the daytime when ambient air starts to warm relative to the night time lows.  Think about a tank half full after a cold night.  The cold fuel is a big heat sink and will keep the tank fuel and metal container much colder than the warming daytime air.  Warming air + cold metal surface = condensation, i.e. cold sweat.  A full tank has less condensing surface and less air inside.  An empty Aluminum tank will warm and cool with ambient air so there will be little if any condensation.  I guess one could close up the tank (i.e. close of breather line) to try to eliminate the reoccurring condensation, but that’s likely not as easy as it sounds (and end up being a bigger PITA than filling the tank).

With any luck, Global Warming will rid the Canadians of some urban myths….

-
Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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Consider not adding the fuel.

This is an urban myth that the condensation would add a lot of water to the fuel. The water in the fuel tank comes usually from the leaking fill hose cover. If you don?t believe it, do some calculations (;-).

Depending how much you motor, if you keep topping up the tank, you may end up with a lot of old fuel in the tank.

Many marinas don?t allow the topping up, because if you do it now, the fuel will expand in the spring and it would leak through the vent.

of course, your boat, your choice.

Marek
Ottawa, ON



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