Use a piece of bike chain. Works every time Rich Hulit (917) 854-5537
> On Jan 21, 2019, at 6:35 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Lost halyard (Edd Schillay) > 2. Re: Grenadine's Paint Job (JP Mail) > 3. Re: Bow roller question for Landfall 38 (Josh Muckley) > 4. Re: Lost halyard (dwight veinot) > 5. Re: Bow roller question for Landfall 38 (dwight veinot) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 17:40:19 -0500 > From: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Lost halyard > Message-ID: <1a8044b2-fb2b-41bc-865e-d0af14290...@schillay.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Sam, > > There should be no need to drop the rig. A weight on the end of the line > should suffice. > > A bent clothes hanger is great for fishing the line out through the exit. > > I?ve known some to use a metal weight on the line and then use a magnet to > guide it through, but I?ve run a few over the years and never needed to go > that route. > > All the best, > > Edd > > --------------------------------------- > Edd M. Schillay > Captain of the Starship Enterprise > C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B > City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY > www.StarshipSailing.com > --------------------------------------- > 914.774.9767 | Mobile > --------------------------------------- > Sent via iPhone X > iPhone. iTypos. iApologize > > > On Jan 21, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Rodney Meryweather via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Sam > I did have a similar issue myself. I found that by taking a 1ft piece of > 3/8ths twisted Cable to feed it in over the sheaves to begin the process at > the top of the mast attached to a drop line works best. The twisted cable > acted as the weight. > On my 35 I was able to take out the bottom pulley system from the mast and > then fish out the line as it passed down by the opening. > > Rodney Meryweather > 865-755-8860 > rmeryweat...@mac.com > > <Scuba_Smile.bmp> >> >> >> From: Sam Tunanidas <socyt...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Stus-List Lost halyard >> Date: January 21, 2019 at 4:19:50 PM EST >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> >> >> My mainsail halyard got away from me on my LF38 and diappeared into the mast >> so I pulled it all the way out. Boat is currently on the hard. I'm sure I'm >> not the first to make this mistake. Has anyone had luck just dropping a >> weighted messenger line down from the top of the mast with the rig up or am >> I going to have to drop the rig > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20190121/58082b05/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 17:41:32 -0500 > From: JP Mail <jon.peterpr...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Grenadine's Paint Job > Message-ID: <7877edc8-0209-4989-ba27-6b01e50b1...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Everything in its place > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hggZnQ6D2b6S2GptIexFl_oGsMB_z_dM/view?usp=drivesdk > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20190121/2a66f800/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 18:20:03 -0500 > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bow roller question for Landfall 38 > Message-ID: > <CA+zaCRDe4RFDiYeKzzFYY9hte-Aordfp3+KKUEyT65HJ=8h...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > For an easy night in a secluded gunk hole you can get away with using the > bow roller to lead the anchor line back to a bow cleat. I do it all the > time and sail up and down the Chesapeake. > > A better practice is to tie on a snubber line using a rolling hitch or an > icicle hitch and then run the snubber lines in a vee below the bow roller, > through the port and stbd fairleads to the bow cleats. A 10' to 15' piece > of line can be kept just for this purpose in the anchor locker. Tie it so > that the tails are roughly the same length and you cleat them such that the > hitch stays about halfway between the water and the bow roller. Ease the > anchor line so that the load it taken by the snubber lines but not so much > that it is drooping slack in the water. In heavy wind and waves the edges > of the bowroller can start chewing on the anchor line. The roller also > presents a lever arm which adds unnecessary stress to the bow. By creating > a "bridle" with 2 attachment points you may reduce some yawing in the wind > and you'll also reduce the risk of a single failure. In some cases the > anchor line is too large to fit the bow cleats properly so a snubber > eliminates that problem. If you ever upgrade to a bigger boat or one with > all chain you're going to need to do this method anyway. If you have a > windlass now or in the future, you may be tempted to simply leave the load > on the windlass. This is a recipe for a damage to the windlass and again > using the snubber method will prevent problems. > > These videos show lazy tails but can be adapted to create 2 working tails. > The icicle just needs to be tied near the middle. The rolling needs to be > tied on a bite. > > https://youtu.be/JFZwfCoETdQ > > https://youtu.be/cA2AJlf0lwE > > For your pre-made section of rope you can improve the snubbing action by > using nylon triple braid and adding rubber snubbers. A rolling hitch on a > bite will be easier to negotiate if snubbers are already installed on the > line. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > > > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 4:33 PM Sam Tunanidas via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I have a Landfall 38 with a double bow roller. I am in the northern >> Chesapeake Bay. I only use 10' of chain and the rest is 8 plait anchor >> line. The bottom around here is mostly mud and I get incredible holding >> power from my Fortress 23. My question is is it okay to just run the line >> over the bow roller then cleat it off or should I run the line through one >> of the port/starboard bow openings you run your dock lines through? Thanks >> in advance to all responders. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20190121/5c238b43/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 19:29:53 -0400 > From: dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Lost halyard > Message-ID: > <CAAX9F+Gef__SpD5Y0N8SVWCRN_+Eh1hCK7NwspGhPPYmN=z...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Bicycle chain as a weight works great on a messenger line if you can get > someone to go aloft for you to drop it > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 6:41 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Sam, >> >> There should be no need to drop the rig. A weight on the end of the line >> should suffice. >> >> A bent clothes hanger is great for fishing the line out through the exit. >> >> I?ve known some to use a metal weight on the line and then use a magnet to >> guide it through, but I?ve run a few over the years and never needed to go >> that route. >> >> All the best, >> >> Edd >> >> --------------------------------------- >> Edd M. Schillay >> Captain of the Starship Enterprise >> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >> City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY >> www.StarshipSailing.com >> --------------------------------------- >> 914.774.9767 | Mobile >> --------------------------------------- >> Sent via iPhone X >> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize >> >> >> On Jan 21, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Rodney Meryweather via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Sam >> I did have a similar issue myself. I found that by taking a 1ft piece of >> 3/8ths twisted Cable to feed it in over the sheaves to begin the process at >> the top of the mast attached to a drop line works best. The twisted cable >> acted as the weight. >> On my 35 I was able to take out the bottom pulley system from the mast and >> then fish out the line as it passed down by the opening. >> >> Rodney Meryweather >> 865-755-8860 >> rmeryweat...@mac.com >> >> <Scuba_Smile.bmp> >> >> >> >> *From: *Sam Tunanidas <socyt...@gmail.com> >> *Subject: **Stus-List Lost halyard* >> *Date: *January 21, 2019 at 4:19:50 PM EST >> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> >> >> My mainsail halyard got away from me on my LF38 and diappeared into the >> mast so I pulled it all the way out. Boat is currently on the hard. I'm >> sure I'm not the first to make this mistake. Has anyone had luck just >> dropping a weighted messenger line down from the top of the mast with the >> rig up or am I going to have to drop the rig >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20190121/d8906832/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 19:34:49 -0400 > From: dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bow roller question for Landfall 38 > Message-ID: > <CAAX9F+GeVKjvjqFqes=ar+2bbotdv61ugzjxuhtxbzh27m8...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Over the anchor roller works fine. I recommend more chain, at least > equivalent to the length of your boat if 5/16. Also mark your rode so you > know the ratio of road to water depth 4 times works fine most of the time > but believe 7 times is recommended > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 7:21 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> For an easy night in a secluded gunk hole you can get away with using the >> bow roller to lead the anchor line back to a bow cleat. I do it all the >> time and sail up and down the Chesapeake. >> >> A better practice is to tie on a snubber line using a rolling hitch or an >> icicle hitch and then run the snubber lines in a vee below the bow roller, >> through the port and stbd fairleads to the bow cleats. A 10' to 15' piece >> of line can be kept just for this purpose in the anchor locker. Tie it so >> that the tails are roughly the same length and you cleat them such that the >> hitch stays about halfway between the water and the bow roller. Ease the >> anchor line so that the load it taken by the snubber lines but not so much >> that it is drooping slack in the water. In heavy wind and waves the edges >> of the bowroller can start chewing on the anchor line. The roller also >> presents a lever arm which adds unnecessary stress to the bow. By creating >> a "bridle" with 2 attachment points you may reduce some yawing in the wind >> and you'll also reduce the risk of a single failure. In some cases the >> anchor line is too large to fit the bow cleats properly so a snubber >> eliminates that problem. If you ever upgrade to a bigger boat or one with >> all chain you're going to need to do this method anyway. If you have a >> windlass now or in the future, you may be tempted to simply leave the load >> on the windlass. This is a recipe for a damage to the windlass and again >> using the snubber method will prevent problems. >> >> These videos show lazy tails but can be adapted to create 2 working >> tails. The icicle just needs to be tied near the middle. The rolling >> needs to be tied on a bite. >> >> https://youtu.be/JFZwfCoETdQ >> >> https://youtu.be/cA2AJlf0lwE >> >> For your pre-made section of rope you can improve the snubbing action by >> using nylon triple braid and adding rubber snubbers. A rolling hitch on a >> bite will be easier to negotiate if snubbers are already installed on the >> line. >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> 1989 C&C 37+ >> Solomons, MD >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 4:33 PM Sam Tunanidas via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> I have a Landfall 38 with a double bow roller. I am in the northern >>> Chesapeake Bay. I only use 10' of chain and the rest is 8 plait anchor >>> line. The bottom around here is mostly mud and I get incredible holding >>> power from my Fortress 23. My question is is it okay to just run the line >>> over the bow roller then cleat it off or should I run the line through one >>> of the port/starboard bow openings you run your dock lines through? Thanks >>> in advance to all responders. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. 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