There is a MK I going begging here that seems to be in much better shape 
including a 2003 diesel engine for $14K USD.
If that boat is as big of a mess like she seems like, I would offer 10 and see 
what happens.

Joe

From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 12:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Frederick G Street <[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List C&C as offshore boat? And more 35-2 decision 
avoidance...

Shawn — am I correct in recalling you’re talking Canadian dollars?  If so, 
$21500 CAD is around $16000 USD at today’s exchange rate.  That’s a pretty low 
amount for a decent shape 35-foot C&C, even given its quirks.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:54 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I'm glad to see such great dialog on this topic, and appreciate all the varied 
responses. Someone on the C&C FB group posted a video from a race in Ladysmith 
on Saturday, with only 3 boats braving the 25-40kn winds. I was sitting on the 
35-2 at the dock that day and felt her shudder under the gusts. In the video I 
noticed how well the C&C 29 (mk2 I think) handled the conditions, cutting 
cleanly through the waves, while another boat, in the 32-35' range, with longer 
overhangs, was bobbing and hobby-horsing in the small chop. Of course, the C&C 
easily outsailed the larger boat, and looking far more comfortable doing it.

My wife and I spent some time on the boat last night with plan to make a final 
decision - we made a list of pros/cons for the boat, but still couldn't make a 
final decision, except to agree that we both feel it is overpriced. There are 
two many things that need attention before we can feel good about this boat:

Electrical - she had a dream that the boat had an electrical fire. I might put 
this down to her fears, if I hadn't found the live battery cables for the third 
battery bank sitting uninsulated - these cables making contact could have 
easily started a fire. So I have to wonder what else is at risk.

Cleaning - the boat is dirty inside and will require several days of cleaning. 
It is tidy, but looks like it hasn't had a good deep clean in years. The 
cushions may be original, and there is a musty boat smell which is likely in 
the foam. The zippers are seized, so removing the covers (they are otherwise in 
ok shape - oatmeal coloured fabric) may destroy them. The seat backs are 
stapled in, so there is no good way to clean them aside from a surface clean. 
So the old boat smell may not be easy to resolve, and new cushions is several 
boat bucks I expect, even if we do some work ourselves.

Interior condition - many holes in the ceiling liner, some of them filled with 
epoxy leaving yellow stains which may be impossible to remove, even if I can 
cover the holes. Most of the teak panels have some kind of holes or damage in 
them, not horrible, but still detracts from the feel of the interior. No water 
damage fortunately.

So the boat is being hauled tomorrow (I paid for). I will call the owner today 
to discuss, but I doubt he will be willing to make any concessions on the deal, 
so that may be the end of it. If he is willing to drop the price to $20K so I 
can put toward new electrical and cushion cleaning/repair, there is a chance we 
would go ahead, but this still leaves a whole lot of work for me to do in two 
weeks.

I just keep hoping another suitable boat will come along to make it easier to 
walk away from this one, but anything less than another 35 will seem like a 
step down.

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