I’m installing one now. All reports I get so far are positive.
Dave. Kaseler
SLY
1975 CC 33

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> On Jul 7, 2019, at 9:08 AM, Glenn Henderson via CnC-List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Have any of you had experience with Composting toilets?
> 
> Glenn Henderson
> C&C 41 
> WeGo
> 
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>>    1.  C&C35-3 spinnakers for sale (Rich)
>>    2. Re:  Voltage / Amp Hours (Josh Muckley)
>>    3.  Toilet Replacement (Raymond Macklin)
>>    4. Re:  Toilet Replacement (Neil E. Andersen)
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>> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 21:05:41 -0400
>> Subject: Stus-List C&C35-3 spinnakers for sale
>> I have a great 2014 North Sails S2 Airmax 600 all purpose spinnaker that 
>> needs a new home. I will also throw in an old spinnaker that came with the 
>> boat that is a great heavy air chute. It probably came with the boat in 1988 
>> but never used. It was still crisp when I got my boat in 2011. Anyway, we 
>> converted to asym 2 years ago so have no more use for them. 2 great sails. 
>> You won’t be disappointed. Make an offer!
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>> From: Josh Muckley <[email protected]>
>> To: "C&C List" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> Cc: 
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>> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 21:49:11 -0400
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Voltage / Amp Hours
>> Olivier,
>> 
>> It sounds like you are using solar to charge? Under this situation you would 
>> have charge current at high noon.  While charging (with or without any other 
>> loads) the battery is nowhere near full charged if it is reading 14.01v.  
>> While charging, the very lowest voltage reading which you could even halfway 
>> consider full would be 14.4v which is kinda common for auto alternators and 
>> some bench type chargers.  More likely you haven't come close to full charge 
>> until 14.6v or 14.7v but as discussed previously this is just the end of the 
>> bulk charge phase and represents only ~80%.  You really need a measure of 
>> the charge current once 14.7v is reached to know better where you are 
>> between 80% and 100%.
>> 
>> Josh Muckley 
>> S/V Sea Hawk 
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 2:37 PM Olivier Chatot via CnC-List 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Edd,
>>> 
>>> I agree with Marek and Gary about the voltage reading not being a reliable 
>>> indication of the state of charge. Here's an example from my boat. At noon 
>>> my battery bank is normally back to full charge and the voltmeter shows 
>>> 14.01V, cool. A second later the fridge starts and the voltage drops to 
>>> close to 13V.  
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Olivier
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 13:46 Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Edd,
>>>> to add to what Gary said...
>>>>  
>>>> any measurement of the remaining capacity of the battery bank is tricky, 
>>>> because it depends on how accurate your in- and out- meters are, what the 
>>>> actual (current) total battery bank capacity is (it changes over time, 
>>>> never up) and at what SoC (state of charge) you started the measurements.
>>>>  
>>>> I assume that your 450 Ah is a nominal capacity, but you don’t know how 
>>>> much of that is left.
>>>>  
>>>> The 6 A you mention, is it 6 A over several hours (let’s say 3), i.e. 6 A 
>>>> times “several (3)” hours = ~18 Ah or just 6 Ah? However, on a 450 Ah 
>>>> battery bank, even 20 Ah is just under 5%, so if you started with 100% SoC 
>>>> you should be at 95% (if it was 6 Ah, the SoC should be 98.5%).
>>>>  
>>>> As Gary mentioned, re-synchronisation is a must.
>>>>  
>>>> The voltage you are seeing depends heavily on what is using the battery at 
>>>> the given time (as you check it). I can almost guarantee that if you were 
>>>> watching the monitor at the time of starting the motor, the voltage meter 
>>>> would show some number much lower than 12 V (even if the SoC was almost 
>>>> 100%).
>>>>  
>>>> I am not sure if it helped you much, though
>>>>  
>>>> Marek
>>>> 1994 C270 Legato
>>>> Ottawa, ON
>>>>  
>>>> From: Gary Russell via CnC-List
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 13:08
>>>> To: C&C List
>>>> Cc: Gary Russell
>>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Voltage / Amp Hours
>>>>  
>>>> Hi Edd,
>>>>     The battery voltage is only an indication of the state of charge of a 
>>>> lead-acid battery when the battery has been without load (or charge) for 
>>>> several hours.  Otherwise, the voltage is pretty much meaningless.  Many 
>>>> devices measure the state of charge by noting the difference between the 
>>>> number of amp-hours drawn and the number of amp-hours charged into the 
>>>> battery.  It is a more accurate indication of the state of charge but has 
>>>> it's limitations as well.  Any inaccuracy in measuring the current into or 
>>>> out of the battery will accumulate over time requiring the device to be 
>>>> "re-synchronized".
>>>>  
>>>> Gary
>>>> S/V Kaylarah
>>>> '90 C&C 37+
>>>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 12:23 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Listers,
>>>>>  
>>>>> Last year, I installed a Blue Sea battery monitor and I’m a little 
>>>>> perplexed about the readings I am seeing.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Last night, before an amazing fireworks display at Hempstead Harbor 
>>>>> (thanks to fellow Lister Neal Gallagher for the guest mooring), I looked 
>>>>> at the display. Out of the 450 amp hours in the House bank, we had used 
>>>>> around 6 amps between using the electric head, cell phone charging, etc. 
>>>>> for several hours — with the display showing 99% capacity.  But the 
>>>>> voltage was showing 12.38, which I understand to mean closer to 75%.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Someone on a YouTube video said that the Voltage reading is not really 
>>>>> the one to go by, as the voltage will increase when you start switching 
>>>>> things off.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Is that all true? Is what I’m seeing normal? Can one of you Amperage Aces 
>>>>> or Voltage Vixens explain this to me? (Please keep it simple - way too 
>>>>> much Romulan Ale and Klingon Blood Wine flowing last night.)
>>>>>  
>>>>> - Confused on City Island
>>>>>  
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>  
>>>>> Edd
>>>>> 
>>>>> -------------------------------—-
>>>>> Edd M. Schillay
>>>>> Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
>>>>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>>>>> Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL
>>>>> www.StarshipSailing.com
>>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>>> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
>>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Raymond Macklin <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: 
>> Bcc: 
>> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 10:25:05 -0500
>> Subject: Stus-List Toilet Replacement
>> Hello:
>> 
>> I have a 1985 C&C 33 and i am looking to replace the manual  toilet.  I want 
>> to replace it with one that has the same foot print for fastening it.  Does 
>> anyone know what i can replace it with to match and where could locate one?  
>> The old paperwork indicates it might have been a W.C Marin Marine Toilet 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Ray 
>> LakeHouse
>> Milwaukee, WI 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Neil E. Andersen" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "'Raymond Macklin'" <[email protected]>
>> Bcc: 
>> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 11:31:38 -0400
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement
>> Ray,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I’m sure it was a Wilcox-Critten.  I had the same issue and the Jabsco 
>> doesn’t work with the way the studs are on a #@.  Luckily I still had the 
>> old toilet and was able to clean it up, get a new seat (West Marine for 
>> $66-YIKES) and re-build kits are still available.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If the old toilet is gone or beyond rebuild, you may have to resort to eBay, 
>> or other Internet places that have “used” ones.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Neil Andersen
>> 
>> 1982 C&C 32, FoxFire
>> 
>> Rock Hall, MD
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Raymond Macklin 
>> via CnC-List
>> Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 11:25 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: Raymond Macklin <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Stus-List Toilet Replacement
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hello:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I have a 1985 C&C 33 and i am looking to replace the manual  toilet.  I want 
>> to replace it with one that has the same foot print for fastening it.  Does 
>> anyone know what i can replace it with to match and where could locate one?  
>> The old paperwork indicates it might have been a W.C Marin Marine Toilet 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Ray 
>> 
>> LakeHouse
>> 
>> Milwaukee, WI 
>> 
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