Installed a Water Witch switch AND Bilge Counter a few years ago so I know if I 
have a leak that needs attention.  A great product.  I also installed a manual 
bilge switch in the bilge just beneath the sole to assist in getting the bilge 
dry.Spencer Johnson 84 Lf 38 "Alegria "Racine,  wi
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 1Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 12:16:25 +0000From: "Hoyt, Mike" 
<[email protected]>To: "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>Subject: Re: Stus-List Wiring adviceMessage-ID:       
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text/plain; charset="utf-8"I second Water Witch.  We switched to that 4 seasons 
ago and it has worked perfectly.The only thing to watch out for is wet slime 
buildup on the switch will cause it to be fooled and run.  Quick wipe off and 
good for several more months. Installation is simpler than a traditional float 
switch and it is not constantly testing like an automatic bilge 
pump.MikePersistenceHalifax, NSFrom: CnC-List 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ALAN BERGEN via 
CnC-ListSent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 8:48 PMTo: C&CCc: ALAN BERGENSubject: 
Re: Stus-List Wiring adviceI have been using an electronic switch (Water 
Witch), instead of a float switch, for more than five years, after two float 
switches failed. Here's the link for Defender Industries: 
https://search.defender.com/?expression=Water%20WitchAlan Bergen35 Mk III 
ThirstyRose City YCPortland, OROn Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:53 PM Shawn Wright via 
CnC-List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:I might 
have to check these out. One of my Rule switches is flaky, or there is a bad 
connection somewhere down there. As it's the secondary pump, I've ignored it 
for now, but I plan to tackle it again before our long summer trip in a few 
weeks. I'd love to get a switch that will activate earlier so I can have less 
water down there, and keep it below the lowest keel stud.--Shawn 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>S/V Callisto, 1974 
C&C 
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 Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 5:37 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:Another vote for 
the Ultra Safety Systems bilge switches. They are designed with the common (3 
way) connections inside the switch. That is, there are separate wires for the 
manual supply, automatic supply and switched power to the pump. The negative 
side also runs through the pump. Each wire comes with an adhesive heat shrink 
butt connector.No need to join the manual supply, switched supply and pump 
positive in a 3 way connection.Dennis C.Touch? 35-1 #83Mandeville, LASent from 
my iPhoneOn Jul 9, 2019, at 3:46 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:I have two 
questions related to the correct way of doing wiring in a wet area (bilge) of 
the boat.1.  In the process of wiring in my new high water alarm, I found it 
convenient to split an existing always hot red wire in the bilge area to run 
both the bilge alarm and the emergency bilge pump switch.  I had some 3 way 
fittings from Defender (below) that I have used before which have crimp/heat 
shrink attachment ports.  After connecting them I realized that the center part 
of the fitting is actually not insulated.  This seemed like a bad idea, 
especially for a potentially wet area like the bilge.  I am confused by the 
logic of a sealed connector that has an unsealed junction exposed.   In the 
past I used a larger crimp/shrink butt connector and stuck two wires into one 
end and now that seems like a better solution.<2024633WY121.jpg>2. There is 
also an open connector block for all the mast wiring in the same area of the 
bilge, so high water would get to that area at a similar time as the alarm or 
emergency switch.  So is that considered an OK way to set up mast wiring in a 
wet area?Thanks- DaveS/V Aries1990 C&C 34+New London, 
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 2Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 12:40:03 +0000From: "Della Barba, Joe" 
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charset="utf-8"Is it oil sensing? Some of the oil sensing ones are IMHO too 
sensitive and won?t ever run the pump unless the bilge water is drinking water 
clean.JoeCoquinaFrom: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-ListSent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 8:16 AMTo: 
[email protected]: Hoyt, Mike <[email protected]>Subject: [EXTERNAL] 
Re: Stus-List Wiring adviceI second Water Witch.  We switched to that 4 seasons 
ago and it has worked perfectly.The only thing to watch out for is wet slime 
buildup on the switch will cause it to be fooled and run.  Quick wipe off and 
good for several more months. Installation is simpler than a traditional float 
switch and it is not constantly testing like an automatic bilge 
pump.MikePersistenceHalifax, NSFrom: CnC-List 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ALAN BERGEN via 
CnC-ListSent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 8:48 PMTo: C&CCc: ALAN BERGENSubject: 
Re: Stus-List Wiring adviceI have been using an electronic switch (Water 
Witch), instead of a float switch, for more than five years, after two float 
switches failed. Here's the link for Defender Industries: 
https://search.defender.com/?expression=Water%20Witch<https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=88226c1a-d4b424ba-8822456d-0cc47adca788-a37175038dcbc248&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.defender.com%2F%3Fexpression%3DWater%2520Witch>Alan
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text/plain; charset="utf-8"No.  Not oil sensing.  Just that when covered in a 
slime buildup and sailing the switch stays wetter longer while tacking from the 
water sloshing in bilge and pump runs more than it should.From: CnC-List 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via 
CnC-ListSent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 9:40 AMTo: '[email protected]'Cc: 
Della Barba, JoeSubject: Stus-List Wiring adviceIs it oil sensing? Some of the 
oil sensing ones are IMHO too sensitive and won?t ever run the pump unless the 
bilge water is drinking water clean.JoeCoquinaFrom: CnC-List 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via 
CnC-ListSent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 8:16 AMTo: [email protected]: Hoyt, 
Mike <[email protected]>Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Wiring adviceI 
second Water Witch.  We switched to that 4 seasons ago and it has worked 
perfectly.The only thing to watch out for is wet slime buildup on the switch 
will cause it to be fooled and run.  Quick wipe off and good for several more 
months. Installation is simpler than a traditional float switch and it is not 
constantly testing like an automatic bilge pump.MikePersistenceHalifax, NSFrom: 
CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ALAN BERGEN via 
CnC-ListSent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 8:48 PMTo: C&CCc: ALAN BERGENSubject: 
Re: Stus-List Wiring adviceI have been using an electronic switch (Water 
Witch), instead of a float switch, for more than five years, after two float 
switches failed. Here's the link for Defender Industries: 
https://search.defender.com/?expression=Water%20Witch<https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=88226c1a-d4b424ba-8822456d-0cc47adca788-a37175038dcbc248&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.defender.com%2F%3Fexpression%3DWater%2520Witch>Alan
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