On 6/27/2019 10:16 AM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List wrote:
Hello Listers, I’d like to conduct a little survey about racing, tapping into the broad experience, geography, and boat diversity represented on this list. What prompted this is a discussion in my club about ratings, which expanded into a discussion about courses, tactics, and relative performance. I’d like to get perspective from the collective knowledge on this list, to add into that discussion. So here are some fairly objective survey questions, for those of you who race your boats:

1. Where do you race? Narragansett Bay, Buzzards Bay, Long Island Sound

2. What wind conditions are the rule and exception there? 12 to 18 kts Spring & Fall , 5-10 kts late Jul to mid Aug  Note: all three regions experience Tidal Currents up to 4 kts

3. What kind of courses do you sail? Round the nav buoys

4. What sail plan do you fly? Main, Genoa, sym Spin

5. What model of boat are you racing? C&C-35 Mk-2 (1974)

6. What PHRF rating do you race with? (please list adjustments) PHRF-NB 134/156 (Base 126, Genoa+2, Main +9 (boom 2' short), Misc -3 (6' draft))   PHRF-ECSA (OSC) 126/148 (Base 123, Main+6, LP of J +1, pole Spin g/spl -1, Keel mod -3)

7. What is your boat’s fastest point of sail? Reaching

8. Is there leapfrogging in your races, or do boat-for-boat positions stay fairly constant? Very dependent on wind conditions especially in July Aug where boats can sail into a hole and one has to very aware of current patterns in the light air

9. How many boats are you usually competing against? 10 to 18 in starting class

10. In general, how well do you perform in racing results? Usually top three

And now a few more subjective questions:

11. Do you think your boat’s rating assumes you’ll race it on a particular kind of course with a particular sail plan? PHRF-NB rates boats for around the buoys racing.  the rating assumes a specific sail and hull plan - modifications from standard are adjusted,  Sails are rated for both bigger and smaller than normal.  Most clubs in the area scoring is done using  Time on Time calculation method.

12. How do you think your local rating authority determines the rating for your boat? By boat/class ie; C&C35 Mk2. (Only three C&C35 Mk2 still racing on Narr. Bay; 2 offshore racers one Narra Bay only)  My rating has been fairly consistent for the last 35 yrs slowly increasing, no big jumps, incrementally +1 every few years = boats older, i am older, we are getting slower

If a specific boat competitor is doing extremely well the rating committee will look at boat modifications, boat preparation (who did the bottom, wet or dry sanded, how often cleaned), sail material, age of sails, crew experience (we have world class sailors racing here) and if needed make an adjustment.  If the boat was optimally prepared, with no modifications, and is getting 1st 2nd and 3rds and the crew is semi professional (lots of sail lofts and boat builders/designers here) they will leave the rating as is.  If the boat was not optionally prepared they will look for modifications and adjust accordingly.  The rating is for the boat, not for the crew, tactics nor sailing knowledge.

That said, there is adjustment by some of the clubs (Off Soundings, Twenty Hundred) to level the winners and give others a chance to win by imposing a Burden of Winning (BOW) penalty. In the Off Soundings series for achieving  1st, 2nd and 3rd place you will receive Performance Penalty Points factor of 3, 2 or 1 respectively where each point equals 8 seconds. BOW Penalties points do accumulate to a maximum factor of 9 points and expire after 3 yearly series.  For the Twenty Hundred Club series if you place in 1st, 2nd or 3rd position you receive a penalty which subtracts from your race rating 15 sec/mile, 10 sec/mile or 5 sec/mile for first, second or third respectively.  This penalty is only imposed the for that series in the following year.

13. What do you think are the most important factors in your performance against your competition? Crew work, the correct sail choice, a good start, knowing the venue (wind & water), and knowing the boat's polars

14. What do you think are the most important race tactics for beating your competition? Good start - on the line moving at speed, If ahead do not let nearest competitors split, If following clear your air and take advantage of current and wind shifts.

Don Kern
/Firebal//l /C&C35 Mk2
Bristol, RI


Thank you very much in advance for your responses to this survey. Best Regards, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30-1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

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