I just finished the deck using Kiwi Grip. I am impressed to say the least.
I painted the cockpit sole several months ago as a test. It held up
perfectly and did not seem to stain any worse than other surfaces. It is
ultra easy to apply. It is an Acrylic (or at least water based) and cleans
up easily. It bonds extremely well. I am the worlds worse painter and got
small spatter drops from rolling the roller too fast. It is extremely
difficult to remove the drops. Also, I have had no lifting on any area. You
can control how aggressive you want the skid pattern by various techniques.
It works best on a shady day. In hot sun, it dries too quickly. Though I
was compelled to paint most of it in those conditions, it still looks
great. A perfectionist painter would be able to apply a factory-like
finish.

Glenn Henderson
1985 C&C 41
WeGo

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> From: James Hesketh <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc:
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> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 07:57:48 -0500
> Subject: Stus-List Deck painting
> Getting ready to paint the decks, cabin and cockpit on my 26.
>
> I've done most of the prep -- deck-core repair in a few places, resealed
> the toe-rail and hatches, removed all hardware, etc. But I want to hire
> someone for the final sanding and painting, and have been looking for a
> good painter.
>
> One of the painters I've spoken to has offered to put down a fresh cote of
> gelcoat instead of paint. I've never heard of anyone doing that; it might
> be nice but I don't know if its really practical.
>
> Thoughts . . .
>
> Jim Hesketh
> Whisper C&C 26
> Miami, FL
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> From: "Dennis C." <[email protected]>
> To: CnClist <[email protected]>
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> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 07:24:27 -0600
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Deck painting
> Absolutely practical.  Would be my choice in fact.  In my opinion, gelcoat
> will greatly outlast paint.
>
> Spray on the smooth areas then double-tape and roll on gel coat mixed with
> colloidal silica for the non-skid areas.  If the guy knows his stuff, go
> for it.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 6:58 AM James Hesketh via CnC-List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Getting ready to paint the decks, cabin and cockpit on my 26.
>>
>> I've done most of the prep -- deck-core repair in a few places, resealed
>> the toe-rail and hatches, removed all hardware, etc. But I want to hire
>> someone for the final sanding and painting, and have been looking for a
>> good painter.
>>
>> One of the painters I've spoken to has offered to put down a fresh cote
>> of gelcoat instead of paint. I've never heard of anyone doing that; it
>> might be nice but I don't know if its really practical.
>>
>> Thoughts . . .
>>
>> Jim Hesketh
>> Whisper C&C 26
>> Miami, FL
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> From: James Hesketh <[email protected]>
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> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 08:49:24 -0500
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Deck painting
> Thanks Dennis.
>
> Yes, I like the idea of fresh gelcoat, just hadn't heard of that being a
> common practice. The boat is in the water at the marina and will have to
> see if spraying will be allowed.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 8:25 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Absolutely practical.  Would be my choice in fact.  In my opinion,
>> gelcoat will greatly outlast paint.
>>
>> Spray on the smooth areas then double-tape and roll on gel coat mixed
>> with colloidal silica for the non-skid areas.  If the guy knows his stuff,
>> go for it.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 6:58 AM James Hesketh via CnC-List <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Getting ready to paint the decks, cabin and cockpit on my 26.
>>>
>>> I've done most of the prep -- deck-core repair in a few places, resealed
>>> the toe-rail and hatches, removed all hardware, etc. But I want to hire
>>> someone for the final sanding and painting, and have been looking for a
>>> good painter.
>>>
>>> One of the painters I've spoken to has offered to put down a fresh cote
>>> of gelcoat instead of paint. I've never heard of anyone doing that; it
>>> might be nice but I don't know if its really practical.
>>>
>>> Thoughts . . .
>>>
>>> Jim Hesketh
>>> Whisper C&C 26
>>> Miami, FL
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>>>
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> From: Edd Schillay <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc:
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> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 09:58:46 -0500
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 37+ / Starboard Tack / Head
> Listers,
>
> While it has been happening since Day One, yesterday, during our first
> Black Friday Sail in the beautiful Gulf (suck it, northerners), I could see
> water coming in to the head from the rim while heeled on Starboard tack.
> The water will fill the tank and overflow.
>
> Has anyone come up with a simple solution for this? I’d like to avoid
> going under the sink and close/open through-hulls every time I sail or use
> the head.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
> ———————————————-
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
> C&C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> www.StarshipSailing.com
> ———————————————-
> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
> ———————————————-
> Sent via iPhone 11 Pro
> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize
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>
>
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> From: David Risch <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 15:06:32 +0000
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ / Starboard Tack / Head
>
> Edd,
>
>
>
> (Ya may wanna keep the “suck-its” to a minimum if want answers…jus sayin😉
> )
>
>
>
> Siphon break loop for the intake should stop that.  Or do as I did and T
> into head sink drain for a easy fresh water flush config.
>
>
>
> *David F. Risch*
>
> *(401) 419-4650*
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Edd
> Schillay via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:59 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Cc:* Edd Schillay <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Stus-List C&C 37+ / Starboard Tack / Head
>
>
>
> Listers,
>
>
>
> While it has been happening since Day One, yesterday, during our first
> Black Friday Sail in the beautiful Gulf (suck it, northerners), I could see
> water coming in to the head from the rim while heeled on Starboard tack.
> The water will fill the tank and overflow.
>
>
>
> Has anyone come up with a simple solution for this? I’d like to avoid
> going under the sink and close/open through-hulls every time I sail or use
> the head.
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Edd
>
>
>
> ———————————————-
>
> Edd M. Schillay
>
> Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
>
> C&C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
>
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>
> www.StarshipSailing.com
>
> ———————————————-
>
> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
>
> ———————————————-
>
> Sent via iPhone 11 Pro
>
> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: Ken Heaton <[email protected]>
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> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 11:40:59 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ / Starboard Tack / Head
> Ours doesn't do that so I suspect your pump assembly is due for a rebuild
> or replacement.  If it it a Jabsco manual toilet, you can replace the
> entire pump assembly ( Jabsco Part No. 29040-3000 Pump Assembly ) for
> little more that the cost of the parts ( 29045-3000 Major Service Kit ),
> and everything inside the pump, including all check valves, is then new.
>
>
> https://us.binnacle.com/p6899/Jabsco-ITT-Twist-n-Lock-Toilet-Pump-Assembly-29040-3000/product_info.html#description
>
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 at 10:59, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> While it has been happening since Day One, yesterday, during our first
>> Black Friday Sail in the beautiful Gulf (suck it, northerners), I could see
>> water coming in to the head from the rim while heeled on Starboard tack.
>> The water will fill the tank and overflow.
>>
>> Has anyone come up with a simple solution for this? I’d like to avoid
>> going under the sink and close/open through-hulls every time I sail or use
>> the head.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Edd
>>
>> ———————————————-
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
>> C&C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
>> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>> www.StarshipSailing.com
>> ———————————————-
>> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
>> ———————————————-
>> Sent via iPhone 11 Pro
>> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize
>>
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> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 11:12:06 -0500
> Subject: Stus-List River board reduces outflows on Lake Ontario |
> Belleville Intelligencer
>
>
> https://www.intelligencer.ca/news/local-news/river-board-reduces-outflows-on-lake-ontario
>
> River board reduces outflows on Lake Ontario
> Derek Baldwin
> More from Derek Baldwin <https://www.intelligencer.ca/author/dbaldwin>
>
> Effective midnight Saturday, operators of the Moses-Saunders Dam in
> Cornwall will reduce Lake Ontario outflows by 20 cubic metres per second
> contrary to Quinte region lakefront owners’ demand to open floodgates to
> prevent further shoreline damage.
>
> The International Lake Ontario-St. Lawrence River Board will tighten
> sluices ever so slightly to stem outflow from 8,870 cubic metres per second
> to 8,850 cm/3, confirmed Rob Caldwell, secretary of the river board, Friday
> in a telephone interview.
>
> Caldwell said the “stepdown is in march step with the decline of Lake
> Ontario levels.”
>
> He cited daily statistics made available on the river board’s website
> showing the Lake Ontario water level has dropped to 75.0 metres above sea
> level (246.06 ft.) a month after a major Halloween storm dumped massive
> rainfall over several days that lead to higher water levels on the lake and
> corresponding higher outflows at the dam.
>
> With lowered water levels on the lake in play now, capping outflows are
> necessary this weekend to slow down fast currents to encourage safer
> shipping conditions for Great Lakes vessels plying the lake and the river
> downstream, he said.
>
> The new outflows reduction of 20 cm/s is the equivalent of holding back
> 20,000 one litre bottles of water every single second or 1.72 billion
> litres in 24 hours.
>
> The decision to retain more lake water behind the dam is the second such
> reduction since a Nov. 20 rally in Quinte West drew hundreds calling for
> the repeal of Plan 2014 which governs high water marks triggers to release
> water from the dam downstream.
>
> Caldwell said he understands emotions are high but said regulators and
> operators of the dam are doing their best to balance the safety of citizens
> who live above and below the dam as well as shipping companies who operate
> vessels in the St. Lawrence Seaway.
>
> Despite the reduction, Caldwell told The Intelligencer water outflows will
> still remain at 200 cm/s higher than prescribed under Plan 2014 with even
> more flexibility in months ahead given the IJC’s instruction to deviate
> from Plan 2014 on Nov. 22.
>
> “We’re providing all possible relief to riparians upstream but we have to
> consider all stakeholders,” Caldwell said.
>
> Not only lakefront homeowners on Lake Ontario are suffering from high
> water levels, he said.
>
> Seaway companies, as well as hydro companies, are being effected as it
> takes ships five extra hours to traverse the St. Lawrence Seaway canal
> systems and hydro firms are losing hydroelectric generation money from
> opened spillways.
>
> “Nobody wants this high water – it’s not beneficial to anyone,” Caldwell
> said, adding “we’re riding the limits within the system.”
>
> Brighton resident John Martinello was not impressed with word the river
> board was about to hold back more water when lake levels are so high above
> seasonal norms.
>
> “Despite the facts that Lake Ontario is 1.51 ft (approx 1 ft, 6 inches)
> above its long-term average level and that Lake Erie (the source of 80 per
> cent of all water that enters Lake Ontario) is 1.90 ft (approx 1 ft, 11
> inches)  above its long-term average level, the International Lake
> Ontario-St Lawrence River Board (ILOSLRB) will — once again — reduce Lake
> Ontario outflows,” he wrote in an email to media and local politicians
> Friday.
>
> “It seems clear to me that the current Canadian federal government is, at
> best, [un]interested in the issue of Lake Ontario flooding,” he said.
>
> .
>
>
> Don
>
> Don Harben
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