I seem to recall a story about C&C 99 number one. When it was shipped to Annapolis for the boat show, it was “not quite done”, so the story goes. It had a cobbled together interior – I heard it was made of some 110 parts, but cut down and very light.
Then the boat was shown at the show and sailed around and left in Annapolis - and the designer and a carefully selected crew of hot shots sailed it around and kicked butt in a big way. Nice handicap indicating a very fast 32 footer. I understand it was very hard for mere mortals to match that handicap. True? Beats me, but the PHRF guys adjusted the rating somewhat later. Gary From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of Charlie Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 4:45 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Re: Stus-List listed weights +1 to Chuck regarding marketing. OTOH, given the potential variations in the layup of our 'not one design boats' as they were manufactured, with different masts, keels, interior fit-outs, etc. etc., I doubt that even the designer/builder knows how much the boat weighs when it leaves the factory. As a minor example, when I had my centerboard rebuilt for my 1995 36 XL/kcb, I contacted Rob Ball who designed the boat to ask how much lead to add to the inside of the fiberglass board. I could not find a reference to this in any drawings I was able to obtain after C&C went out of business. I don't recall his exact words but they were something like "...we poured lead or lead shot inside the fiberglass until it looked pretty full...". The board or the boat were never weighed at the factory. The yard who rebuilt the board did the same and they started a pool among the workers who estimated how much it would weigh when filled. Turned out it weighed in at 924 lbs and the office secretary won the pool!! Unless one of our boats is weighed or measured for a rating certificate, its estimated weight/displacement/etc. is mostly a guesstimate with a wide (probably +/- 10%) range IMHO. Charlie Nelson Water Phantom 1995 C&C 36XL/kcb -----Original Message----- From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER <cscheaf...@comcast.net <mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net> > Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2019 4:03 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List listed weights Sometimes marketing people adjust specifications to sell boats. I would call it lying, but sales people call it marketing. I'm a person who would pour over data and specifications to make a buying decision and the sales guys know us and simply change the manufacturing specs to sell product. As a resuIt, I never believe manufacturers' specs. Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute, 1989 C&C 34R On December 16, 2019 at 1:36 PM Gary Nylander via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: The listed weight of the 30-1 on the spec sheets is 8000#. I doubt there was ever one that light. The ones which have been weighed seem to hover around 9000. After looking at Rich’s #1, I can see a lot of differences, such as his chainplate system. And, after seeing pictures of other boats – mine has the teak and holly floor throughout, a sump pump for the shower, pressure water, hot water heater, two batteries, and the three burner propane stove/oven which were accessories. >From some earlier comments by owners, I don’t think the raising of the boom >did much for performance, but it did relieve a lot of headaches. And I agree with Michael, the boat does quite well in 15 knots and above. Gary _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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