Jeeze Bob, Sorry, I didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers, I was just relaying 
what this long time owner of a neighboring  C&C39 said.  He didn’t have the 
same top end in big waves as he had before the repower.   And As David 
mentioned, you can get parts for Beta’s anywhere they sell Kubota Tractors, 
which is everywhere in the world..  My 37.5 HP  is the same engine as my Mower, 
minus one Cylinder, so I could use the same Oil, filters, injectors, etc . 

 

Bill Coleman

 

From: Robert Boyer [mailto:dainyr...@icloud.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 1:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C&C Landfall 38

 

I have all the power I need with my new Yanmar 3YM30AE.  I’m not sure where you 
are getting your information that you need more than 30 HP.

 

One big disadvantage of Beta is that there are not nearly as many parts 
distributors—this is more important if you cruise to foreign ports.

 

Bob

Bob Boyer

S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)

Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

Email: dainyr...@icloud.com

Annapolis, MD 

(Presently in Baltimore MD for the summer)





On Jun 26, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

 

I agree, get yourself a nice Beta 37 ½ HP diesel, and a 3 blade flex-a – fold. 
I replaced a 4-108 with one of those Kubota’s, the mounting was about  2 inches 
narrower, I just had to get some 3” aluminum (or maybe 4”) angle to replace the 
old steel angle.  You will be amazed at how much lighter it is from the Perkins.

An old slip neighbor also had a 39, he replaced his atomic with a 30 HP Yanmar, 
and was disappointed with the loss in power.  But it will still get you from A 
to B.

 

 

Bill Coleman

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Niemi 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:55 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Gary Niemi
Subject: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C&C Landfall 38

 

We are American expatriates who have sailed our 1981 C&C Landfall 38 to New 
Zealand a decade ago. It has a Perkins 4-108, which is on its last legs. It's 
not particularly reliable and is having trouble with overheating in the last 
few years. Also, it's very heavy and it is way too much power anyway. We're 
looking to replace it with a more reliable, modern power plant.

 

So we have a couple of questions:

 

What is the correct power? I understand most were sold with Yanmer 30hp 3HM or 
3QM diesels. We like the idea of saving a lot of weight with a smaller engine 
than the Perkins, as well as ease of access, etc. However, we'd consider a 35 
or 38 also if 30 horsepower wasn't enough power.

 

At the same time we'll be replacing the fixed 2 blade prop with a 3 blade 
feathering or folding prop, so will be looking for recommendations for that. 
The current prop is totally wrong. I think it's 16x14. We never were able to 
get up to the proper engine speed with the 4-108. Can you recommend something? 
What have people tried?

 

Interested in hearing others' experiences.

 

Gary Niemi
g...@niemi.co.nz

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