Two days before that picture was taken on the Race Fleet site, my spinnaker, sissy sock and genoa got all wrapped up, and I ended up motoring into Port Dover with my genoa stuck up, in 20 some kts of wind. An interesting day. You can see me up the mast cutting it all out.
All I had for that 5 day series was my daughter, and some 19 year old girl that a buddy stuck me with the night before the race, as he backed out. So, on the day that picture was taken, we had no sissy sock, and the 19 year old had been out trolling the bars till 3:30 am, and leaning over the side all day, less than worthless, so I had to get that Asm down myself, with my daughter driving, in 22 kts or wind. That was special too, which is also why I really want a top down furler! A nice fellow from Buffalo took pictures which he shared with me. It starts with us on their left, broached once in front of them which fortunately I didn’t see, and then we are on the right and wiped out again, then I finally got it down - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kZZawmFp3Mhr_u6H2nxIFJrQTGE_21a6?usp=sharing Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie, PA From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 1:14 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Stus-List Re: asail flown from spinnaker pole I actually have what my former sail maker called a reaching kite which I think could be similar to your Single Luff Spinnaker although it might just be a smaller symmetric kite--I need to have a close look at it. The sail maker never referred to it as an A-kite. My usual masthead kite is PHRF legal and with big shoulders for the downwind stuff. However, without a full AND knowledgeable crew and unless the air is very light, it can be a bear to control, hoist, drop and jibe. Unless the breeze is extremely light, reaching with it is courting disaster. With the pole forward as when reaching, the forces involved in flying it as such that we have the additional complication of switching the kite guy/sheets to our primary winches and clearing the headsail sheets from these winches as we hoist and fly it and then have to reverse the sheets as we drop it. Our kite sheets are only Lewmar 30s while the primary are Lewmar 50s. I have a carbon pole so we usually end for end it (we tried dipping it but my foredeck crew never quite got the hang of it!) but someone or something usually goes awry and the fleet goes by us! Hence my interest in a kite that is fast, legal and can be handled by less crew. Thanks for your help, Charlie Nelson Water Phantom New Bern, NC -----Original Message----- From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: 'Stus-List' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Bill Coleman <colt...@gmail.com> Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2021 12:11 pm Subject: Stus-List Re: asail flown from spinnaker pole I would say it is about the same size as the Sym sail, as the Luff is a little longer, and the leech a little shorter. I wouldn’t compare it to any of the A-0 – A-3 sails, They seem to be flatter. When he first started making these, he just called them Single Luff Spinnaker. The leech is just slightly flatter. And Yes, I would attach the tack to the bow, then dip the pole to the other side, and reattach. Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie, PA From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 11:26 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Stus-List Re: asail flown from spinnaker pole Great photos and speed evidently! Was your A sail larger than your S kite and what number would you consider it--A0, A1, A2, etc? If/when you need to jibe, do you reposition the pole to the other side of the forestay similar to a usual S-kite jibe? I would think that the forestay would be at risk if the pole had a chance to collide with it. Charlie Nelson Water Phantom -----Original Message----- From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: 'Stus-List' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Bill Coleman <colt...@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2021 3:57 pm Subject: Stus-List Re: asail flown from spinnaker pole Yes, regulation J. In this picture, if it is big enough, looks like the pole was 3 feet above the pulpit. https://www.erieyachtclub.org/fleets/race-fleet-home-page The sailmaker put about a 4 foot pennant on the tack, which I would use when reaching. If you can open this, it show it with the pennant only. https://drive.google.com/file/d/16BfCJCujdg653JXzAPWQr3mRtS0k0mw6/view?usp=sharing If I was just going to stick the pole inside the pulpit, I would just tack it to the bow instead of messing with the pole. If I started out with the pennant, and the wind went straight behind, I would use a 4 part downhaul to hold the tack, while I attached the pole to it. Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie, PA Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
