I have to concur with Martin.

Many (many) years ago I crewed on the Sparkman and Stevens designed 60’ 
aluminum race boat “ Brigadoon” against her sistership, “ Running Tide". When I 
saw that structure in the overhead of the main cabin I was pretty sure that it 
was the location/base of a grinder. There was only one on the boat and as 
Martin says, centered. When I saw the turning blocks it furthered my belief 
that this was a serious racing boat with a single grinder.

Unfortunately for me, I was 5’11’’ and 160 lbs. I had no business being part of 
the grinding crew. I did gears 1 and 2 with another guy opposite me and after 
both of us running out of steam during the tack, two other crew jumped in and 
finished off gear 3. We beat them on corrected time. In heavy air.

After racing on that boat and seeing how the afterguard faired vis-vis the 
grunts on the deck I was certain that I would rather own my own race boat. For 
me, better to be a big frog in a small pond that a small frog in a big pond…

FWIW, several of the crew went on to crew on America’s Cup boats. I did not.

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
1998 Mast & Mallet Thomas Point 34 - Katana

> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I crewed on 2 similar sized boats with “coffee grinder” pedestals in 
> approximately the same location close to the mid cockpit. (One was a Frers 49 
> for Transpac 1981, the other a Chance 54 for the 1982 Vic-Maui and Clipper 
> Cup.)
>  
> The location keeps the weight out of the ends and leaves enough room to staff 
> the handles with 2 larger crew.  As I am 6’4” and 190 lbs I was often one of 
> the grinders along with my foredeck duties. On the Chance 54 (Glory out of 
> Seattle) we grinders would compete to see if we could complete a heavy #1 (at 
> the top end of its range) tack without using 1st gear (it was a 3 speed).  
> More than once us deck apes would retire to the rail then hear the trimmer 
> ask us back to take the winch out of 2nd allowing the trimmer to use 1st gear 
> for 1 person sail trimming.
>  
> That C&C 50 is a pretty cool boat.  It fits nicely between the 70’s era 43s 
> and 61s with features of both.  If any listers get serious about looking at 
> the 50, have the surveyor check for balsa core damage around the plastic 
> framed port in the aft cockpit. A similar port in Calypso had a cracked frame 
> (crew knee pressure?) that allowed significant water intrusion.  I had to 
> re-cored/rebuild Calypso’s entire bulkhead and adjacent surfaces in that area.
>  
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso
> 1971 C&C 43
> Seattle/Port Ludlow
>  
> From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 3:32 PM
> To: Stus-List <mailto:[email protected]>
> Cc: Tom Buscaglia <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Stus-List C&C Custom 50 w Weird 2man Winches
>  
> https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/c-c-50-custom-3817907/ 
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yachtworld.com%2Fboats%2F1973%2Fc-c-50-custom-3817907%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cdbaf6763d6d34ed19df508d8f3cbb155%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637527403461453153%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=rkpEc9wEQDp7txwylTxtZWfgCf3xxM%2B8oDR9%2Fujx0%2FI%3D&reserved=0>
>  
> Interesting boat, but the placement of the 2 man Barients seems AFU.
>  
> Thoughts?
> 
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera 
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
>  
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