Steve,   Raw water intake is drawing water in by means of a pump...no such 
mechanism is involved with a PSS seal.  Bill Walker CnC  36Pentwater, Mi.
    On Tuesday, July 13, 2021, 12:45:23 PM EDT, Steve Thomas via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:  
 
 
Bob, 
 In the 20 years I've had my C&C27, little bits of wood or twigs have got 
sucked into the engine cooling water intake on several occasions and lodged in 
unobvious places. They caused partial blockages that were hard to diagnose and 
are memorable for that reason. Our sailing club is small river leading into 
Lake Erie so there is a lot of crap being driven down steam from time to time. 
Count yourself lucky if you don't have that problem. 

Steve Thomas

C&C27 MKIII - Port Stanley, Ontario

C&C36 MKI - Merritt Island, Florida



 
 ------ Original Message ------
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 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dainyr...@icloud.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 11:55 AM
 Subject: Stus-List Re: PSS Stuffing Box
 
 Fred:
I’ve never heard or imagined anything so strange. First, the shaft seal is a 
good foot or more below the waterline. Pieces of wood generally float—so they 
would normally be near the surface of the water. And then have a piece of wood 
lodge between the stainless and graphite seal on top of all that! I would think 
the odds of that happening by natural occurrence would be astronomical.

Bob Boyers/v Rainy DaysC&C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)(Spending winters in warm 
places, and summers on the Chesapeake Bay)blog: dainyrays.blogspot.comemail: 
dainyr...@icloud.com

On Jul 13, 2021, at 11:45 AM, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:



Years ago a small piece of wood came up thru the shaft log into the bellows 
and wedged itself between the stainless and graphite rings. The boat sank 
overnight. The moral of this story is that you should periodically check the 
pressure of the bellows. My stainless ring had slipped. 
Fred HazzardS/V Fury C&C 44

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2021, at 6:41 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:



  
Jeff,
 
 
 
As you mentioned earlier, this topic shows up every so often.
 
 
 
As a PSS user, I am obviously biased.
 
 
 
The stuck graphite face was an issue in older designs (the unvented type). The 
Volvo version of the dripless seal still requires burping.
 
 
 
I can imagine that if I were to sail around the world, I might prefer the 
traditional stuffing box (the maintenance is easier and the spare parts can be 
fabricated by a skilled blacksmith (😉)), but if you sail in the area where 
spare parts are generally available, the dripless solution is completely 
reliable.
 
 
 
I am happy with my dry bilge.
 
 
 
Marek
 
 
 
 
 
1994 C270 Legato
 
Ottawa, ON
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
From: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:25 AM
 To: Steve Thomas via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
 Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman <jlam...@outlook.com>
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Stuffing Box
   
 
  
Let's exclude power boats -- an entirely different environment and demand on 
the hardware.
   
Jeff L.
    
 
        
 
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