I think I’m the other Dave…..  lol. 
 Having just done this I suggest you simply disconnect the fuel line at the low pressure pump input side.  Blow into the hose.  This will clear the screen if any for now, in any case it’s not likely the problem.
Reconnect that, then disconnect the fuel line at the high pressure pump.  Run the fuel using the electric fuel pump, collect it into a bottle.  Chances are it’ll flow just fine, and keep flowing.  

This takes you up to the engine.
I am assuming this works the same as the m20.

Open the speed control cover and check that both springs visible there are present and attached and that the governor spring pulls its lever back fully against its stop.    Check that both levers travel freely. (This connects to the fuel pump which is what actually meters the fuel.)

That’s the easy stuff.  

After that, its high pressure pump, injectors etc.

Dave 

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On Sep 20, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Korbey Hunt via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote:

 A crew member advised he had an intermitent mystery fuel problem that turned out to be a blockage in the fuel supply line at the tank.


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Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem?
 
I have the same engine with a 12v Facet electric fuel pump. Check the 12v supply to the pump first. When I turn the ignition key on if the fuel pump is working there is a very obvious clicking sound. Open the bleed screw and you should see a good flow of fuel. I purchased a solid state Facet 12v fuel pump from Aircraft Spruce as some good person here recommended. Facet model 40106 plus the inline filter for about $75 Cdn. Turned out my old pump was fine but the 12v supply was gone. Fixed that, changed the 2,filters, bled the system and she started right up but almost immediately the wet exhaust blew apart spewing salt water everywhere. It’s been a month since and I am still trying to source parts to build a new wet exhaust elbow. In the mean time got a tow to the marina and hauled the boat. Season ended mid August just when the best sailing weather arrived here. Hope to get it fixed soon so I can winterize. 

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 5:33 PM David Knecht via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote:
Seems to be the week for Dave’s and diesel fuel problems.  Here is my story to hopefully get the wisdom of the group.  

Last Wednesday I was out for a lovely sail (7.5-8 knot reach across Fisher’s Island sound for lunch and back).  I had motored into the harbor on the other side of the sound for about 15 minutes and then back out again and no problems.  I got back to the mooring area and the engine started and then quit.  Tried a few times and it would only come close to starting if I gave it lots of throttle, but would still quit.  Sailed to the mooring (which I hit on the first try under sail single handed in 15+ knots of wind- I impressed myself) put away sails etc. and then tried the engine again and it started and ran fine.  I chalked it up to bad karma and went home.  Saturday, we sailed to Mystic and motored for an hour into the harbor to the Seaport with no problems.  Today we motored back out and after a long wait for the bridge to open (so about 30 min total motoring) the engine quit again and would not start.  A few times before it quit for good, it would suddenly decrease revs for a second and then back up.  Fortunately, the wind direction allowed us to sail out of the harbor and back to the mooring where it would not start.  

Then I started taking things apart to diagnose. (Universal M4-30, electric fuel pump)
1.  Thought first my fuel gauge (reading half full tank) was mistaken or I had bad fuel.  Pulled the probe into the fuel tank and with a flashlight was able to see that the tank was half full and the fuel looked perfectly clean.
2.  Took the Racor lid off and found that the bowl was not full.  It was about 1-2” down so at about the level of the top of the primary filter.  Obviously not good.  This triggered the thought that the sound the electric fuel pump had been making was not what I remembered.  Instead of a rapid continuous clicking, it was more irregular and perhaps not as loud.  
So I am thinking either bad fuel pump or bad power connection from the key switch to the fuel pump.  Does a dying fuel pump work one day and not the next?  The other possibility seems to be a small hole/crack in the fuel line so the pump can’t draw enough vacuum to pull fuel from the tank.  Not sure how to diagnose that and seems even less likely to allow the engine to work intermittently.  

Solutions/more diagnosis
1.  Should I just buy a replacement fuel pump and see if it solves the problem?  This is not inexpensive, but not a huge amount of money and a fairly easy test.  Universal pump was about $230 from Toad’s Marine, but I seem to remember people on the list talking about automotive sources that might be cheaper?
2.  Does one rebuild a fuel pump or buy a new one?  
3.  Is there a good way to distinguish power issues from mechanical issues other than a new pump? A friend suggested filling the Racor bowl with fuel, then turning on the pump and see if it draws the level down.  The only problem with this is I don’t know how fast it normally pulls fuel so not sure how to tell if it was pumping, but not fast enough.

Any thoughts welcome.  Home now, but plan to go down on Wednesday and work on fixing the problem.  
Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT


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