Good to know. I should have looked it up. I had to get a new furler as my
old one broke. It was a bad mistake by me unstepping the mast. So the mast
was down. Got a new forestay as I had no idea the age of it. Sadly the new
furler tack attachment point was almost a foot higher. As a result required
the #2 Genoa to be cut. Mast was up when I realized this. Measured with a
tape measure and the slider on the furler.
Turns out I should have subtracted some. I would say if the length was any
longer it would not be tight all the way up. .5 in shorter and I could then
tension the luff to a more desirable tension. Since it is in the slot all
the way up it looks fine. Just not perfect.

On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 11:45 AM Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Garry.
>
> J is defined as the horizontal length of the base of the foretriangle from
> the landing point of the forestay on the deck to the front side of the
> mast.  For a 30 MK I that landing point is the chainplate at the top of the
> bow stem.  A horizontal line aft from that point meets the front of the
> mast just below the partners.  But I don’t think that invalidates the
> geometric estimate of forestay length.
>
> In any case, I’ll be measuring it this weekend using a tape on a genoa
> halyard from the bow, and I'll report back.  I’ll have to compare the
> halyard sheave height to the forestay attachment height and adjust the
> measurement accordingly (I can’t go up the mast right now because the boat
> is shrink-wrapped).
>
> This is all for the purpose of determining the luff length for a new sail
> I’m ordering to go on a new furler I have yet to install - a Selden Furlex
> 204S.  Selden has calculators for the luff length, that take the forestay
> length as an input.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
> SV Grenadine
>
> On Jan 22, 2022, at 9:01 AM, Garry Cross <garr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I doubt the geometric calculation you are using will work. A straight line
> at right angles to the mast will likely cross the bow line below where the
> forestay attaches.
> If you have a halyard that turns near where the forestay attaches, you
> likely will get a closer approximation than the geometry method.
>
> According to sailboatdata.com
> Est. Forestay Len: 41.27 ft / 12.58 m
> Seems your calculation agrees with that.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 7:51 PM Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Listers,
>>
>> Does anybody know the forestay length of a 30 MK I as it came from the
>> factory, with the rig properly tuned for 8” of mast rake?
>>
>> By geometry (square root of I squared plus J squared) I’d expect it to be
>> in the neighborhood of 41’3”.  I is 39’ for a 30 MK I, and J is 13.5’.
>>
>> According to the owner’s manual the forestay cable is 1/4” and the lower
>> fitting is <quote>1/2” jaw to jaw turnbuckle & toggle</quote>.  On mine,
>> the cable is swaged into an eye fitting on the lower end, which is pinned
>> to a turnbuckle screw that’s probably 1/2” jaw to jaw (if that’s what’s
>> meant by the owner’s manual).  The screw at the other end of the turnbuckle
>> is identical, and is pinned to a toggle that’s pinned to the bow stem.
>> Picture at
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZT794BQaw0R8aWZCK9NqmVqRJ9K85VT9/view?usp=sharing
>> .
>>
>> I’m wondering if this is the standard from-the-factory setup, and what
>> the overall forestay length is from pin at masthead to pin at bow stem,
>> when the rig is properly tuned.
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Randy Stafford
>> SV Grenadine
>> C&C 30 MK I #79
>> Ken Caryl, CO
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>
>
>
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