I'm sure there are some great Navtec shops but none near me and the local 
hydraulic repair shop repaired mine fifteen years ago and it worked fine.   
Fifteen years ago, they replaced a leaking top seal that was damaged by UVs.  
This O-ring has a hat shaped cross section and is a little tricky to get into 
the groove.  $25 and a pressure test and I was on my way though they didn't 
replace all the seals and O-rings inside.  This time under new owners, the 
rebuild was more extensive and cost me $350 with me providing the $60 seal kit 
available from Offshore Spars.  We replaced all the soft parts inside.

I will be considering a cascade backstay system to replace the hydraulic system 
next time.  I like the purchase used on the Beneteau 36.7 but it requires 
additional anchor points on the transom.  A nice winter project.

I also learned from the shop that "eco-friendly" hydraulic fluid is available 
now.  It is bio-degradable.

Chuck



>     On 04/20/2021 6:19 PM David Risch via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Even my $500 Navtec Guy got it wrong.  Charged me again the next season 
> after it failed as it was beyond warranty.  Right...
>      
> 
>     Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
> 
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------
>     From: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>     Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 10:28:53 AM
>     To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>     Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman <jlam...@outlook.com>
>     Subject: Stus-List Re: Navtec Hydraulic backstay adjuster, soon to be free
> 
>     I have never taken a hydraulic backstay adjuster apart so have no 
> firsthand knowledge of whether an adjuster is similar to a tractor hydraulic 
> system or not.  Surely the principle is the same.  All I can go by is what I 
> am told by marina repair technicians that I trust.  The guys at Toressen 
> Marine, who I and many others have a high level of trust in, told me that an 
> adjuster should not be repaired by an ordinary hydraulics repair shop.  They 
> are not the same.  They explained that, during training of technicians, after 
> about the 6th rebuild, they trainees get it right.  They had my adjuster for 
> a week and could not get the proper seal kit from NavTec anymore, so gave it 
> back.  A tractor guy would have put off the shelf seals in that weren't 
> designed for the unit and you get what you get.
> 
>     So, FWIW, as I commented before, be careful where you save money.  This 
> is an important and expensive piece of hardware.
> 
>     Jeff Laman
>     1981 C&C34 "Harmony"
>     Ludington, Mi
> 
> 
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------
>     From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>     Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 10:18 AM
>     To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>     Cc: Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
>     Subject: Stus-List Re: Navtec Hydraulic backstay adjuster, soon to be free
> 
>     Back in the day the local hydraulic shop worked on these and autopilot 
> rams for us at “farmer and bulldozer driver” prices, not boat prices. They 
> are not all that different than anyone else’s hydraulics.
> 
> 
>     Joe Della Barba
>     Coquina
> 
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