Jenna found our steering cable only attached by one bunch of the
(?11)-strand cable a few years ago while I was seining in AK.

She and friends reswaged a new piece of cable to our old chain and I have
kept an eye on it since, periodically lubing.

I find the grease port in the rudder post is not enough when driving hard
downwind for many miles, we often get a squeak that starts near/just under
the quadrant

Shift and throttle cables are a must-do, in my opinion, if they haven't
been done on a boat of our vintage.







On Wed, Aug 2, 2023, 5:31 AM Rob Hamlin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Josh glad I’m waiting till off season,  recall any part number from
> Edson..sounds like some fabrication in order as well.
>
> -Rob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 2, 2023, at 3:04 AM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  You're in for a treat!  This might help.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/115qLR3c13N2THCRpsOF-7UGGJBweFXfd/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> Edson made the plate to which the turning sheeves are attached out of
> carbon steel.  They never expected the OEMs to install them in a wet or
> exposed location.  The sheeves are attached with 3/4 inch diameter sleeves
> that have been hydraulically pressed to full over top and bottom rim.  This
> makes a type of "pass through rivet".  The hole in the center of the
> "rivet" is where the cable passes.  The rivet clamps the bronze sheeve body
> to the plate.  The body uses the rivet as a pivot and has bolts to hold it
> in position as needed to fairlead the cable back to the quadrant.  The
> sheeve are bronze as well and they pivot on a stainless pin.  Edson
> reengineered this plate and used both aluminum and bronze.  Sounds like and
> upgrade right?  Well it would be if it would fit our boats but it won't.
> Besides the thickness of the new plate being the main problem the sheeve
> can not articulate close enough together to allow the cables to lead
> properly.  So it would be nice if edson just stuck with a carbon steel
> version as well but they didn't.  When I replaced mine I learned all of the
> aforementioned details over multiple weeks and phone calls and shipping
> returns.  Ultimately the associate I was working with was able to paw
> around in the warehouse and found what he thought might very well be the
> last carbon steel plate in existence.  They re-rivetted my sheeves to the
> new plate.  It was the only option.  If you're in fresh water I've heard
> the damage is considerably less but if you're in salt water you may find
> yourself with a bigger than expected project.
> <img1.jpg>
>
>
> The cable replacement is actually pretty straight forward as long as you
> figure out a way to attach the new cable to the old and the the old to lead
> the new through the sheeves and pedestal.  If anything comes undone you may
> have to unmount the pedestal.  The cable can be bought from edson or
> manufactured by reusing the chain and reswaging new cable.  Its more
> expensive to use but only $30 or $40 bucks more.  Using theirs ensures that
> you get new chain.  You'd also be able to leave the olds cable in place and
> use it to lead the new as described above.  New from edson is my vote.
> They come in different lengths and our boats use one of if not the longest
> available.  You can narrow it down to the available options by measuring
> from the pedestal hub to the deck and add the distance from the pedestal
> base to the quadrant.  Then add half the circumstance too.  As I recall the
> cable wraps  halfway around but maybe its a full 360°. Double check when
> your measuring and adjust the math as needed.
>
> If you are taking time to rebuilt the pedestal reach back out and let me
> know.  There are some tricks.  I had mine completely sand blasted and
> repainted.  All the internals were completely rebuilt.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
> Aug 1, 2023 15:55:33 Rob Hamlin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>:
>
> Thinking about my my off season punch list.
>
> Steering system is next up, after motor mounts and running gear last year.
>
> Any idea on cable and idlers required?
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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