Charlie I’d drop to 4:1 if most of your sailing is under 15 knots. Try it before replacing the sheet because you will need a lot less line.
My 44 was 4:1 with end boom sheeting. Under 15 I didn’t need to use the winch. Joel On Fri, Nov 21, 2025 at 10:35 AM cenelson--- via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote: > Thanks to all who chimed in. > > FYI, all my main rigging hardware is Harken: traveler track, windward > sheeting car, triple blocks at traveler and at boom with cam cleat on the > triple block on the traveler car. > > When the wind is up, I add a Harken 4:1 purchase to the main sheet with > double blocks and a cleat on the lowest double block. > > One of the responses (Josh) got me thinking that given the mostly light > air where I race, my main purchase may be too much (6:1). > > Certainly this is fine upwind but going downwind, pushing the main out > with a whole bunch of 3/8” double braid line is a chore when I have > basically 6 lines thru 6 sheaves to work against. > > My 36 XL has a 3 spreader rig and a weighted center board-don’t remember > the mast height. > > So my next/last question: is my main ‘over purchased’ for the boat in the > lighter air in which she usually races? > > If so, maybe I should drop to a 4:1 in the main and keep the additional > 4:1 purchase on the main permanently. > > This would give me a purchase of up to 16:1 versus my current setup of 6:1 > up to 24:1 and reduce the main sheet length by about 1/3. > > What says the list? > > Charlie Nelson > C&C 36 XL/kcb > Water Phantom > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661> > > On Thursday, November 20, 2025, 1:01 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I agree with Joel, regarding the line diameter. I actually went with 7/16" > for my main and jib sheets, and 3/8" for my spinnaker sheets and guys (I do > dip pole gybes). I replaced all my Shaeffer jib and mainsheet blocks with > Harken, and I replaced the Shaeffer traveler with a Harken traveler. > Garhauer hardware is excellent, and less expensive than Harken hardware, > but IMHO too heavy. That's why I didn't go with Garhauer. > > Alan Bergen > 35 MkIII Thirsty > Rose City YC > Portland, OR > > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 9:21 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Charlie, > > My 2 cents: Do you use a cam cleat on the bottom block to cleat the > line? I would not want to hold anything less than 3/8 in my hand while > trimming. Sta-set is pretty soft, and I suspect new line would run through > the blocks easier than 30 year old line. If you want to upgrade from > double braid look at Marlow D2 Club. It is Dyneema cored, so you could > strip cover off if you want and it is a better price than most Dyneema > lines. Also consider new blocks. I'd look at Garhauer. I'd be inclined > do spend my money on Sta-set and new blocks instead of high tech line. > > Joel > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 12:04 PM cenelson--- via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Hello all listers, > > After 30 years, I think its time to replace my main sail sheet on my 1995 > C&C 36 XL/kcb. This sheet looks to be ~ 3/8" double braid line, likely New > England Rope sta-set. > > It is rigged to a Harken traveler just forward of the helm/binnacle and > uses a 6:1 purchase to the end of the boom. The traveler has a windward > sheeting car on it and the car has a 3:1 or 5:1 purchase for adjustments. I > also have a detachable purchase of 4:1 which I can quickly add to the 6:1 > main purchase to get 24:1 when its windy. > > Aside from some serious but not yet critical fraying of the cover, it > still works OK. However, for most of my racing/sailing the line and the 6:1 > and 3/8" line is a little over kill and the friction is substantial. My > thought is to replace it with something that is lighter in weight and > smaller in diameter BUT not so small in diameter that its impossible to > hold or trim when required, especially when on the wind. > > One thought is to go with a line with a partial cover for handling when on > the wind, with the remaining line uncovered when the boom is out for > downwind or reaching. With a 6:1 purchase, I think the line diameter could > go down substantially and still be plenty strong--however, the main trimmer > still needs to trim the line so it cannot be too small. > > OTOH, maybe there is a single smaller diameter line available now that > would work and still be lighter without dealing with a line that has some > of the cover removed. > > In either case, I need ~ 110 feet of line with the current 6:1 purchase. > > Any suggestions from the list on what to replace it with would be > appreciated. > > TIA, > > > Charlie Nelson > 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb > Water Phantom > November is the time of the year when my Internet bills come in. It's > also the time when you can show your appreciation of this list and the C&C > Photo Album. 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