Agreed. AL 2.0. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Nasser Dassi <nass...@inbox.com> wrote:
> I concur with Garrett's recommendation of AL 2.0. > > The language translates to the same thing with 3 specific exceptions: > > * AL 2.0 is explicitly *no-charge*. > * AL 2.0 is explicitly *irrevocable *(as bold-faced). > * AL 2.0 includes a *termination *clause. > > That being said (and IIRC) the MSPL appears geared towards commercial > entities opening their source code. The MSPL appears to imply additional > licensing/termination clauses not included herein... although typically > included in commercial software). > > - nasser > > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Garrett Serack <garre...@microsoft.com>wrote: > >> The MSPL is great and all… but I think it lacks a bit of expressive >> clarity: >> >> >> >> >> >> MSPL: >> >> >> >> “Patent Grant- Subject to the terms of this license, including the >> license conditions and limitations in section 3, each contributor grants you >> a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license under its licensed patents >> to make, have made, use, sell, offer for sale, import, and/or otherwise >> dispose of its contribution in the software or derivative works of the >> contribution in the software.” >> >> >> >> AL 2.0: >> >> >> >> “Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, each Contributor >> hereby grants to You a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, >> royalty-free, *irrevocable (except as stated in this section)* patent >> license to make, have made, use, offer to sell, sell, import, and otherwise >> transfer the Work, where such license applies only to those patent claims >> licensable by such Contributor that are necessarily infringed by their >> Contribution(s) alone or by combination of their Contribution(s) with the >> Work to which such Contribution(s) was submitted. If You institute patent >> litigation against any entity (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a >> lawsuit) alleging that the Work or a Contribution incorporated within the >> Work constitutes direct or contributory patent infringement, then any patent >> licenses granted to You under this License for that Work shall terminate as >> of the date such litigation is filed.” >> >> >> >> I prefer the explicit-ness that the AL has regarding. >> >> >> >> If we’re going to be clear, then let’s be very clear. >> >> >> >> G >> >> *Garrett* *Serack* | Open Source Software Developer | *Microsoft >> Corporation * >> >> *I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on >> Windows.* >> >> >> >> *From:* Ferdi [mailto:foe...@googlemail.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:51 AM >> *To:* Garrett Serack >> *Cc:* coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Coapp-developers] Choice of License. >> >> >> >> Why not Ms-PL? easy... >> >> 2010/5/18 Garrett Serack <garre...@microsoft.com> >> >> >> >> I’ve been looking at this carefully, and it boils down to a couple of >> choices: >> >> >> >> New BSD (simple, direct, but a bit vague) >> >> >> >> Or >> >> >> >> Apache License 2.0. >> >> >> >> The nice part of the AL is that its language is quite clear about what >> means what, and specifically what is being granted, whereas the BSD license >> is relying upon a lot of ‘implied’ license of patents and whatnot. >> >> >> >> The AL also directly limits liability—always a good thing. >> >> >> >> >> >> Unless someone can give me a significantly good reason to rethink this, >> I’d say we should go with the AL 2.0 for all the code we create. >> >> >> >> Shallow-forks of other projects should maintain the licenses of their >> upstream originators. >> >> >> >> G >> >> >> >> >> >> <http://fearthecowboy.com/> >> >> *Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft >> Corporation >> Office:(425)706-7939 email/ >> messenger: garre...@microsoft.com <http://fearthecowboy.com/>* >> * >> >> blog: http://fearthecowboy.com >> twitter: @fearthecowboy >> <http://fearthecowboy.com/>* >> >> *I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better >> on Windows. <http://fearthecowboy.com/>* >> >> <http://fearthecowboy.com/> >> >> <http://fearthecowboy.com/> >> >> >> <http://fearthecowboy.com/> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: *https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers* >> Post to : *coapp-develop...@lists.launchpad.net* >> Unsubscribe : *https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers* >> More help : *https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp* >> <http://fearthecowboy.com/> >> >> <http://fearthecowboy.com/> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers >> Post to : coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers > Post to : coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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