>
>Sun Cobalt has a history of releasing packages that either don't work,
>or break security, or break functionality.  It's a sad but true fact
>that's well documented in past posts to this and other Cobalt lists.

I have seen next to nothing that has not worked on a system that has not 
been modified.  I have only had one problem ever with an update and that 
was OS2.  It made a change to a man and I got an error from logcheck.  None 
otherwise.  I have added ipchains, logcheck, portsentry, ssh.   I have not 
otherwise been in there modifying the system.  About the only change made 
manually was for the parsing of files.  I have basically stayed out of the 
conf files many people live in.  So, I disagree with the packages not 
working and breaking other things.  They do have a problem when YOU modify 
other things yes.

> > Sure, other systems may be more secure, but those people who don't use for
> > example external firewalls should think about their philosophy of security
> > first before discussion security features of OSes. Our machines all work
> > behind sophisticated firewalls and we don't grant shell access to any
> > customer, so we simply don't have those security problems.
>
>Most of us have our systems in colocation and don't have the luxury of a
>firewall to be behind.  Please let us know a bit about your
>"sophisticated firewall", as I'd love to build one for our colocation
>customers to be able to use.

Basically he hosts plain old html pages without any extra 
functionality.  Me too.



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