On Sunday 30 October 2005 15:18, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, Phil Beynon wrote:
>
> I used to have "f*** off and die, spammer" in mine -- now I just take what
> would match those blacklists and use them to feed my databases.
>
> Let me counter -- every one of the old netiquette guidelines (around since
> the 1970's, email is now 25 years old) say not to SEND spam.  So if
> someone's going to violate those rules, well...
>
> -Dan
>
> > Is there any particular netiquette guidlines as to what should be put in
> > sendmail access reject texts?
> >
> > Having been the receipient of a vast amount of really not terribly nice
> > spam recently I've started really getting quite rude in the reject texts
> > they get back - well quite offensive really! :-)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Phil Beynon
> > Sales director
> >

While I really do understand the thread, one thing to remember is that none of 
us is "perfect" - meaning what do you do when you get a "false" and tell 
either one of your customers, upstreams, or an "aol", "hotmail" or such to 
"f" off and die.....

We need to remember that like our community that we "live" in (physically) we 
make the internet in some small way each day (or more particularly someone 
else's opinion of it) and as such should "temper" what we say in our error 
messages.

I find that the more "useful" the error message, the more probability of 
getting something done (sort of the honey catches more files than vinegar 
concept).  Does that mean the hardcore spammers are going to change their 
ways - probably not, but since most of them are using either hacked, hijacked 
or other connections and "false", forged or other addresses, that those 
"error" messages, bounces and such that end up going to a "real" person 
somewhere will at least have some "clue" as to what happened and not be 
immediately 'po'd' at you or me for the "rude" message that gave them no clue 
as to what or why (and in fact will probably view you/me as the "spammer" and 
request us be blocked by their ISP)....

-- 
Larry Smith
SysAd ECSIS.NET
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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