Hi Jason,

> I hadn't really intended to use the CCE I thought it was just a more
> complex way of doing the same thing. I have found so more information on it
> all at ftp://ftp-eng.cobalt.com/pub/developer/TechNotes/SSDK.pdf and I will
> have a good read up tomorrow. 

Yeah, I know that guide. It's not entirely worthless, but it's my firm believe 
that it was written by Sun Cobalt with the full intention in mind to 
discourage people from diving into CCE/Sausalito. Like they *had* to release 
some sort of documentation to make a big client happy, but didn't want anyone 
really going for it. So it starts with some basic stuff, like what the GUI is 
about and throws in some nice schematics, which rather look like a sales 
blurb. Then, after 30 pages of nonsense it goes into great detail explaining 
classes and their syntax for 15 pages or so, but that information is thrown 
at the reader in rapid fire succession without examples to really comprehend 
it or make use of it. CCE and Sausalito are briefly explained, too, but even 
where it goes into detail it eventually is misleading a bit, if not 
intentionally wrong. 

Hell, the SDK explains even how to build PKGs, but anyone doing it "their" way 
would be crazy, as it's really the most outlandish way to do it.

So all in all and from a programmers point of view I rated the SDK as a waste 
of time and I don't think you'll find anyone who says: "I learned 
CCE/Sausalito thanks to that guide".

> I might just finish of the raqbackup gui using a few handlers that directly
> edit the script and then once that is complete try playing with the CCE.

That's a good idea. There are ways imagineable to integrate into the GUI 
without using CCE to store information. If you just read from a config file 
and need to write back to it, then storing the stuff in CCE prior to or even 
after writing is a waste of time. I'd rather let the applicationHandler.php 
write a temporary file with all info in it an then just use a handler to move 
the tempfile to the propper places and change permissions and ownerships of 
it (and restart the services if need be). Like with all programming: There is 
more than one way to do it.

> At the moment I see the future of the raqs as limited as more and more time
> is being spent developing new distros/guis and less and less on the raq
> platform. I'm gonna be sticking with raqs for several years even if its not
> my current ones and I know there must be other people in the same
> situation. And eventually there'll be only a few people supporting the blue
> boxes and by then I want to know mine inside out so I can keep it going
> just a bit longer before I have to make the inevitable change!

Same here. With BlueQuartz around it is finally viable again to develop 
software for Sausalito, as it will run (with or without some modifications) 
on a couple of appliances. Like the BlueQuartz, RaQ550, Qube3, TLAS1HE, 
TLAS1WG, Argon, RaQdevil, etc.

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With best regards,

Michael Stauber

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