> Vreman, Peter - Acision wrote:
> >>> Change sidebar from a static list and add menu to a nested menu
> >>> structure. Only for the current selected target distro/system the
> >>> operations will be shown. The menu structure will be like the CLI:
> >>>
> >>> Systems
> >>>             Add
> >>>             Delete
> >>>             Poweron
> >>>             Poweroff
> >>>             Reboot
> >>>             Enable PXE
> >>>             Change profile
> >>>
> >> Grouping  the "list" and "add" things together is ok, though I like
> your
> >> original "dashboard" idea for surfacing some commonly used functions
> >> better than this proposal.   I also see "edit" missing.
> >>
> >> For instance, on the "systems list" page, we can add something like the
> >> following:
> >>
> >> SYSTEM  |   (Profile Drop Down with Current Profile Shown) |  | (No
> >> Change | Power On | Power Off | Reboot)
> >> SYSTEM  |   (Profile Drop Down with Current Profile Shown) | (Netboot
> >> Enabled | Disabled) | (No Change | Power On | Power Off | Reboot)
> >> SYSTEM  |   (Profile Drop Down with Current Profile Shown) | (Netboot
> >> Enabled | Disabled) | (No Change | Power On | Power Off | Reboot)
> >> SYSTEM  |   (Profile Drop Down with Current Profile Shown) | (Netboot
> >> Enabled | Disabled) | (No Change | Power On | Power Off | Reboot)
> >> SYSTEM  |   (Profile Drop Down with Current Profile Shown) | (Netboot
> >> Enabled | Disabled) | (No Change | Power On | Power Off | Reboot)
> >>
> >> [ Apply changes button at the bottom ]
> >>
> >> One roadblock with adding import is that it can be /very/ slow, so
> >> that's why it's not present now.  The same goes for reposync.
> >> To solve this adequately, we need to build a task engine that can log
> >> the output of background processes.   In the future, this is something
> >> I want to enable, as it will also enable folks to run reposync and
> >> import from the XMLRPC API's.
> >>
> >
> > There are several reasons why I changed to this new proposal:
> > - You can now run an action easier on multiple systems. With a toggle-
> all button all systems are quickly selected. Maybe with an additional
> filter you can first filter and then also use the toggle-all
> >
>
> Ok, I think I understand a bit more.
>
> I'm still a rather visual person so I think I could benefit from seeing
> a rough mockup. If it looks like a 3rd grader did in five minutes in
> mspaint (aka "something like I would draw" I don't care, but it would
> help me tremendously :)
>
>
>
> > - A confirmation screen with the affected systems can be given. This is
> better for safety, especially with the power options. The confirmation
> screen can also be used for asking the additional input of values like the
> profile or netboot.
> >
>
> I'm not sure I understand this part either, and is another case where an
> example might help.
> > - The pull-down boxes require of mousemovement to set everything correct
> >
>
> I can agree with limiting scrolling. Could this also not be solved by
> having different tabs when editing things? We could have one tab for
> virt settings, one for network settings, etc, and that way just limit
> the vertical scrolling.
>
> > - Normally you want to apply the same action on all systems. Using the
> pull-down boxes this requires manual verification.
> >
>
> I would disagree with the idea that I want to apply the same action to
> all systems. For example, if I'm adding a kernel argument that just one
> system needs, I would be editing just this one system.
>
> Similarly, if I am deciding to reinstall one system that was comprimised
> and/or "really broken" that's something I want to do to just one system.
>
> Also, are you saying the manual verification bits are good or bad? I
> think they are generally a good thing and for wholesale changes I'm more
> likely to write a script or (even more likely) use cobbler find + xargs.
> I realize all users don't fall into that mode, however, so it would be
> nice to have options.
> > - With multiple actions in a single apply the confirmation becomes
> complex.

I understand that it is difficult to understand something visual that is 
written in text.

I think it is better that i hack something and submit it for review.

Peter


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