> >>>>>> - What kind of initrd shall be used?
> >>>>>>   o Use livecd-tools to build the initrd+kernel from
> >>>>>>
> >> Fedora/RHEL/CentOS?
> >>
> >>>>>>     * Minimum size is 150MB
> >>>>>>     * Easy to maintain and regenerate
> >>>>>>   o Create a small busy-box initrd+kernel
> >>>>>>     * Minimum size is 20MB
> >>>>>>     * Harder to understand
> >>>>>>     * Requires more indepth linux knowledge
> >>>>>>
> >> I'd use the appliance creator tools (thincrust.et.redhat.com) -- just
> so
> >> that it would be easier for more people to develop on it.
> >>
> >> Then we can ask them to make it possible to make smaller and smaller
> >> images as needed :)
> >>
> >
> > The toolchain looks nice to use, but I can't use it out-of-the-box. The
> toolchain requires the latest releases of at least livecd-tools,
> pykickstart and yum. Those are not available in RHEL4 or RHEL5(-epel).
> >
> > I rebuild at the livecd-tools rpm under RHEL5, but it failed because it
> requires at least python 2.5 for the try..except..finally syntax.
> >
> > Any idea how to handle such build dependencies?
>
> Not suprising. livecd-creator itself wasn't usable on EL either when we
> doing koan live CD's (now replaced by "cobbler buildiso" because it
> works everywhere -- it's just a "dumb" syslinux based ISO so it requires
> much less to build and can be exceedingly small). However we really only
> have to generate one ISO and then host it, rather than making each
> person respin one.
>
> Build it in a Fedora VM, perhaps?
>
> There's also a mailing list:
> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/thincrust-devel

Only a simple filesystem image is required. I don't think we need the 
appliance-tools multiple-fs patch for it. That means I can start already with 
the current available livecd-tools from RHEL5-epel.

Later the appliance-tools support can be added to the build process to create a 
more optimized image.

Regards,
Peter


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