Gee, I must have ruffled someone's feathers to get the Pres of CFO to
respond with posting guidelines.  Actually, Jim, none of the posts I was
thinking of were not made in the instant to get the word out (as illustrated
in my example) but were reports after the fact.

Getting a little information about a bird would facilitate the recreational
enjoyment of some who might be interested in looking for the bird.   I, like
several other Cobirders I have talked to, might be interested in looking for
a rare bird if it was something we were interested in and within a
reasonable distance, but we are not interested in going on a 'wild goose
chase' (such an appropriate phrase) to find that the reported rarity (say a
Barred Owl) that turned out to be a very common species (say a Great Horned
Owl with it's tufts drawn back). A little identifying info such as 'the bird
had black eyes' , etc, would be helpful to some of us.  It is also
especially helpful if the bird is in some immature species for which a
little description might aid those who do try to refind it.

Some skilled cobirders do post this info such as " CANADA WARBLER - 1 bird
heard singing a total of 4 times, I briefly saw
the bird as it flew out of the tree. I saw a bright yellow belly, a white
undertail covert, and a gray back. I was not able to see the head or the
chest.
The main thing that helped in the ID was that I heard it singing." posted by
Cole Wild in early Sept.

It is unfortunate that a cobird member cannot express their 'wishes'--as
that was all it was--without it precipitating these posting guidelines.

SeEtta Moss
Canon City
http://BirdsAndNature.blogspot.com









On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Jim Beatty <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Hi All,
>
> COBirds, as a part of the Colorado Field Ornithologists, has a primary
> mission of supporting Colorado birds and birding.  This is for both
> scientific and recreational purposes.  Each of us probably has at least a
> slightly different set of reasons for subscribing to COBirds.
>
> When a rare or unusual bird is found or thought to be found, we all know
> that speed is of the essence, if we have any interest in chasing and
> observing the bird.  COBirds has the substantial advantage of great speed in
> spreading the news of the find to a large number of people who can decide
> for themselves the pros and cons of chasing the bird for whatever reason.
> So early posting with or without identification details is always the first
> consideration with a 'possible,' or 'probable' added if warranted.
>
> Also, I'm sure that just about everyone knows that Colorado does have a
> rare bird committee called the Colorado Rare Bird Committee which is the
> official keeper of the State List and has the duty to review rare or unusual
> sightings and such sightings may be submitted to them with documentation.
> They will then 'accept' the record or 'not accept.'   The latter only means
> that submitted documentation did not in their opinion confirm the stated
> identification.  All records are filed and kept.
>
> While ID discussions are highly appropriate on COBirds and are both
> interesting and educational, they are just that - discussions.  As such we
> must ensure that such discussions are civil in tone and respectful of all
> involved.
>
> As to the issue of supporting evidence, I believe that speed comes first.
> If the observer/poster has supporting evidence that they have the time and
> inclination to include, please do so.  It adds much richness to the
> discusson on COBirds.
>
> However, there is no COBirds requirement to document rare or unusual with
> supporting evidence.  That duty comes with submitting a rare bird record to
> the CBRC.
>
> I welcome any of your comment and views.
>
> Jim Beatty
> Durango, CO
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* SeEtta Moss <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:58 PM
> *Subject:* [cobirds] Re: Ted Floyd's post on rare bird postings
>
> I want to second Ted Floyd's comments today about posting sightings of rare
> birds:  "We can all learn a lot by discussing reports of rare
> birds--ideally, those backed up with excellent photos, like
> Becca's--reported from Colorado. It's infinitely more satisfying and
> educational than reading something like, "Went to Crow Valley, refound the
> Philly Vireo. Good Birding, --Jack Birder."
>
> It used to be the norm that when a big rarity was posted it would be
> accompanied by a description that supported the identification and sometimes
> an accompanying photo.  In recent months there have been posts that made
> note of a rarity sighting sometimes in a rather off-handed manner (ie, "Saw
> a flock of robins, oh and also saw a Carolina Parakeet").  I think that
> sightings that are reported without substantiating documentation are at of
> being dismissed by many.
>
> As Ted also noted Becca got some great photos which really helped with that
> difficult id.  Not everyone can get photos so making good notes of field
> marks and confirming with good identification sources is important.
>
> Let me also congratulate Becca for having the courage to post about this
> bird.  It can be scary and let me add that I have yet to meet a birder who
> did not misidentify birds, even the experts make errors sometimes.
>
> SeEtta Moss
> Canon City
> http://BirdsAndNature.blogspot.com
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