It appears that I have the ID of Cassiar's Junco (in photo link below from
my previous post this morning) wrong. In further research, aided by the
responses I have received, my thoughts on this subspecies (J. hyemalis
cismontanus) have been incorrect all along. There is a good discussion on
this found here: http://www.oceanwanderers.com/JuncoID.html among other
places. I believe my reading of Pyle's textual description led me astray -
for no good reason other than I just failed to interpret it correctly.

 

The consensus of the first two photos are that of a female nominate
slate-colored - J. h. hyemalis. An imm male of this ssp would show a
brownish back also, but this individual should probably be considered an
adult because its terts are not edged in brown; therefore an adult female
hyemalis ssp.

 

Thanks for the input, and if anyone has any further ideas, please forward
along. Hope this was helpful to some.

 

Jeff J Jones

( <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected])

Teller County - 8500' - Montane Woodlands

 

From: Jeff J Jones [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Pictures of Cassiar Junco

 

Ok - uploaded 2 grainy pics of the cassiar junco (cismontanus) to
http://www.sendpix.com/albums/10111515/154425000000002508034870bf91e846f03dc
5648a3e0f/?p=1 

 

Low light - through window - at 40 ft. So you get what you get. J If anyone
wants to call it a band-tailed pigeon due to complete lack of picture
quality I would understand!

 

Along with those two pics is another low quality pic of an oregon group
individual; and based on the lack of contrasting lore, I am inclined to call
it a J. h. thurberi subspecies (according to Pyle).

 

Would love to hear any feedback on either subspecies. Thanks and fyi.

 

Jeff J Jones

( <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected])

Teller County - 8500' - Montane Woodlands

 

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