Oh! Sorry – I missed that distinction Norm. To be clear, I saw two plumes off the top of the head.
Jeff J Jones ( <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]) Teller County - 8500' - Montane Woodlands From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:23 AM To: Ira Sanders Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [cobirds] Little Egret ID Back plumes are not what matter. It is the plumes off the top of the head that do. These are only present in full breeding plumage. The color of the lores is very critical. I agree with Ira about the MA bird. It is ditinctive but easier to judge when in comparison to a nearby snowy. Norm _____ One field mark not yet mentioned is the size of the bill. After seeing a Little Egret in MA late last year, and paying more attn to this difference than I did when seeing Little Egret in other places in the world, I'd say the larger bill is a noticeable field mark. There is also a difference in behavior as pointed out in Nat Geo and this was evident in the bird in MA. Ira Sanders Golden, CO From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff J Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 7:41 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: [cobirds] Little Egret ID Hi Norm, Thanks for chiming in. I have no experience with Little Egrets, having never seen one. I do want to ask however about the discussion of back plumes. All I have to go on are the field guides (Natl Geo 6th Ed, Sibley, among others). It seems to me that in reviewing these texts, they make a point (and the pictures show it) that in breeding plumage the 2-3 plumes of the Little Egret far exceed anything we might see on the Snowy at any time of year. And they seem quite distinctive in the drawings. And match precisely my memory of what I saw on Sunday. Is your comment (“Discussion of back plumes is not very helpful”) meant to apply generally or at all times of the year? If one sees these distinctive plumes on a white egret, to the same degree as shown in both of the above mentioned field guides for a breeding Little Egret, is that still not enough to go on? I am just wondering if your comment was meant for times when the plumes were not distinctive and in high-breeding, or if the plumes are truly of no assistance in ID’ng a bird even in this case. I have seen, as I am sure many folks here have, hundreds of Snowy’s over the years, and I don’t think I have ever seen any sporting 2-3 distinctive long plumes; even in high-breeding plumage. Have you (or anyone) ever seen a Snowy Egret with 2-3 very distinct and long plumes? Perhaps this is common and I just don’t know about it. Thanks for educating us. Jeff J Jones ( <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]) Teller County - 8500' - Montane Woodlands From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Norm Erthal Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [cobirds] Little Egret ID I have seen hundreds of little egrets in several countries. This includes in Trinidad and Tobago where there was one in breeding plumage with snowys present. The id is not readily apparent. Discussion of back plumes is not very helpful. They are not significantly different than on snowy. Black legs and yellow feet are of course no use as this is a primary field mark for snowy. Without a photograph, calling an egret with the field marks mentioned would lead me to say that it is a snowy. Norm Erthal Arvada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/cobirds/-/htjZjb0VUowJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
