Plus eye color is wrong for adult Coop, unless it's a light and photography
thing.

Chip Clouse
Olde Town Arvada
On Oct 22, 2014 4:39 PM, "Ira Sanders" <[email protected]> wrote:

> What about a dark morph juvenile Broad-winged Hawk? Just a thought. I know
> the tail looks long and the bird looks too thin. But again, just a thought.
> I've never seen a Cooper's Hawk that dark.
>
> Ira Sanders
> On Oct 22, 2014 4:42 PM, "Kay Niyo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am not a hawk expert either!  But I agree with Joe.  Adult Cooper’s
>> based on the head shape, eyes, tail, and horizontal breast streaking, etc.
>> I wished I had the photo in PhotoShop so I could lighten it a bit.  Would
>> guess that the breast would tend to show a little more rufous orange in the
>> streaking and not quite as dark brown, but don’t know that.  Didn’t try it
>> since it is a private photo in pbase.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kay
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>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
>> Behalf Of *Joe Roller
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:12 PM
>> *To:* Jeannie Girard
>> *Cc:* Colorado Birds
>> *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Hawk Id
>>
>>
>>
>> Very nice photo! Thanks. This appears to be an adult (based on breast
>> pattern; jury would show vertical streaks) Cooper's Hawk, based on
>> proportions of bird,
>>
>> rounded, not squared off tail, position of eye in head, etc.
>>
>> I have never seen one this dark! Off hand I would call it melanistic.
>> Even the terminal tail band is dark and it is usually white.
>>
>>  I don't think they have pale and dark "phases" like buteos. I will be
>> intrigued by comments from raptor experts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe Roller,*
>>
>> Denver
>>
>>
>>
>> **Raptor ignoramus*
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Jeannie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I can not identify this hawk that I saw last week at the Dog park at
>> Cherry Creek State Park, Arapahoe County.  Many people I know have tried to
>> ID it, but so far, no one is sure.
>>
>> Please take a look and any  help  would be appreciated.
>>
>> http://www.pbase.com/image/157919391
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeannie Girard
>>
>> Aurora
>>
>>
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