Several years ago during the Barr lake birding festival in September, I saw
at least 3 flocks of Cassin's moving south over Barr Lake with 10 to 20 in
each group.

Ira Sanders
Golden, CO

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Nicholas Komar <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I agree with Dave L. The birds that appeared this fall around Fort Collins
> did so during cold fronts with waves of other birds from the north.
>
> Nick Komar
> Fort Collins CO
>
> On Oct 4, 2017, at 4:10 PM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> David and all,
>
> The map in Sibley is not accurate.  There are breeding populations in
> eastern Montana, southwestern SD, eastern WY and western Nebraska (Wildcat
> Hills, etc.).  *Birds of Nebraska* by Sharpe et al list them as "fairly
> common breeders in the Panhandle".  *Birds of Wyoming* by Faulkner
> reports a count of 31 at Pine Bluffs on 3September2000.  Most of these
> areas have open grown ponderosa pine which looks a lot like the eastern
> Black Forest in Elbert and that is where I always figured our late
> September-early October Cassin's at places like the Pawnee Grasslands and
> Fort Collins come from.  There is also a patch of aberrant limber pine just
> south of where CO-NE-WY come together in CO that is private but may also
> support a breeding population.  Cassin's Kingbirds show up on the
> northeastern plains and along the Front Range pretty much every year about
> this time of year (later than Eastern and Westerns).  There seems to be
> more of them this year than most, but then, there are a lot more birders
> than there used to be.  I think the Cassin's Kingbirds are coming from
> somewhere north of us.
>
>
> Dave Leatherman
>
> Fort Collins
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> David Suddjian <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 4, 2017 3:45 PM
> *To:* Colorado Birds
> *Subject:* [cobirds] Cassin's Kingbird origins
>
> I'll suggest an answer to my own question about where the recent *
> Cassin's Kingbirds* are coming from. I suggest this is a northward
> movement, similar to the "reverse" migration of Tropical Kingbirds in
> California, and now one from CO.  Looking at eBird patterns for Wyoming and
> Nebraska to the north, and CO counties that are north of or adjacent to the
> main CO breeding range of Cassin's (e.g., Jefferon, Boulder, Larimer, Weld,
> Adams), there is an increased frequency of occurrence in September that is
> not a continuation of a late summer presence but seems to result from
> migrants moving during September (and into early October). Since there is
> not really a pool of birds to the north during September or late August, it
> seems to me most likely that the Cassin's we are finding over the last few
> weeks have moved north in a "reverse" pattern... maybe from afar away.
>
> Maybe this pattern is already obvious to others or established? Thoughts?
>
> David Suddjian
> Ken Caryl Valley
> Littleton, CO
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