I agree with Joe except that I would count birds I saw flyover my house even if I wasn't in my own yard. Ira Sanders Golden, CO
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 8:00 AM Joe Roller <[email protected]> wrote: > Thomas, > Here are the guidelines for keeping a yard list on eBird- similar in some > ways to Big Sit rules, with key differences. > *from eBird **Help section**: * > *What birds count?* For eBird yard and patch lists, feel free to count > anything seen or heard from within your yard or patch. Fly-overs are fair > game. In other words, the bird need not actually be in your yard or > patch, as long as you are. Thus, if you have a small city apartment with no > actual trees or grass, you can still count anything you see or hear from > your property. > > The one difference I noticed is that Big Sit rules provide for a team or > group of birders to > combine their sightings into one list. Yard lists on eBird are personal > lists and are limited to what the you alone observes. > *However, please note that birds that you do not record personally (i.e., > a friend sees it in your yard, you record it on a feeder cam, or use > microphones to record birds from your yard),should not be counted.* > > Another difference is that Big Sit guidelines allow a team member to walk > or drive away from the Sit Site to > check birds seen far away from that spot. And I believe that birds seen > *from* that ectopic site can be added > to the Sit list. Joey Kellner will know all about that, having organized > the Chatfield Big Sit for many years. > > In contrast Yard lists include birds seen or heard from within your yard. > That guideline seems NOT to > allow adding species present IN your yard even if you are OUT of your > yard, eg, walking home from > a stroll. Which seems like a silly constraint to me. > > Just as with Life Lists or any other list, one can make up your own rules > if your yard list. It's only important > to follow standard guidelines when you choose to document your yard > totals on eBird or the CFO site described > in my post of 2/3. > > And eBird also encourages "Patch Lists" which might include your whole > neighborhood or a nearby park. > But that is another topic. > > Please weigh in on whether I got this straight or not. > > Joe Roller, Denver > > On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 11:42 PM Thomas Heinrich <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The discussion regarding listing rules got me wondering about which rules >> we choose to follow for yardbirds. How many of us use the ABA model as >> opposed to the Big Sit model, or some other perhaps? >> >> What do you count? If you happen to be returning from a walk around the >> neighborhood, see a Northern Goshawk fly directly over your house, but >> you’re not actually standing in your yard, does it count? What do you do >> when you hear a flock of 150 migrating Sandhill Cranes off in the distance, >> or maybe see the 23 Am White Pelicans through your scope five miles distant >> over the Valmont complex, or find the motion triggered night vision camera >> in your backyard captured an image of a Boreal Owl? Not that all of these >> have happened to me...yet. But one can still hope. I actually had two new >> yardbird owl species (N Pygmy Owl and E Screech Owl) in one day back in >> August, one at dawn, the other at dusk. >> >> I tend to like and use something similar to the Big Sit model (whatever >> you can see and accurately identify from within a boundary) mainly because >> it greatly expands the potential list (e.g. Lewis’s Woodpecker, Clark’s >> Nutcracker, Pinyon Jay up along the Dakota Ridge behind my house), which I >> guess is a bit greedy, but also more fun. I do also try to get photo >> records for all yardbirds, and have been successful in all but 5 species >> out of about 120. After IDing the bird from the yard sometimes I will hike >> beyond the property to get better shots. >> >> Anyway, I’m curious to hear other approaches, thoughts, etc. >> >> —Thomas >> >> >> >> Thomas Heinrich >> Boulder, CO >> [email protected] >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Colorado Birds" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/9F11C5A2-8FC7-47AF-945E-D7CA36256B8D%40gmail.com >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Colorado Birds" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/CAJpZcUAP%2B7s0kq9CWxLT0MVcbY1qG2S4CEfbr42Qv0vXOix%2BUg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/CAJpZcUAP%2B7s0kq9CWxLT0MVcbY1qG2S4CEfbr42Qv0vXOix%2BUg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Ira Sanders Golden, CO "My mind is a raging torrent flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. 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