Thank you for this overview!  I always wondered how to balance the positive 
value for birds with the impetus to eradicate.  I sure see a lot of birds 
using the R-os here inCanon City.  Maybe thinning is the best or most 
realistic approach.
Laura Gorman

On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 10:33:29 AM UTC-6 Dave Leatherman wrote:

> The Russian-olive removal at Crow Valley Campground was done at the behest 
> of the US Forest Service who is in charge of the area.  These days the USFS 
> does almost all on-the-ground work, except firefighting, through 
> contractors.  I believe the removal of the olives at Crow Valley Campground 
> was performed by some locals out of Briggsdale.  My guess as to how this 
> all went down is that there was a pot of money in a veg management account 
> that would have to be returned if not spent by September 30 (the end of the 
> federal fiscal year), somebody in Greeley or Washington knew about, or 
> ascribed to, the paradigm that R-o is evil, also knew that giving a 
> contract to the two guys with a dog, chainsaw, magnetic sign and pick-up 
> would give somebody brownie points for "hiring local", and it was done 
> deal.  As far as I can tell, it was a quick and dirty operation with no 
> removal of the cut wood, no treatment of the stumps, no replacement 
> planting of "better" species, no interpretive material on-site or 
> explanation given to the Campground Host (in case he was asked why it was 
> done).  If somebody knows a different story about how this all happened, I 
> am open to correction.
>
> As stated, the paradigm amongst most CO natural resource agencies, be they 
> federal, state, county or city, is that Russian-olive is evil and deserves 
> eradication.  This is a fairly new school of thought.  Following the Dust 
> Bowl, R-o was planted widely promoted and planted as a helpful remedy on 
> the Great Plains.  The federal Soil Conservation Service (now the NRCS) was 
> its biggest promoter.  R-o grows well in harsh places and we all know the 
> world is getting harsher by the minute.  The Colorado State Forest Service 
> I used to work for has the last government tree nursery standing in CO and 
> grows/sells approximately 2 million seedlings of all types a year.  They 
> only quit offering R-o in the 1990's, mostly because it was PC to do so. 
>  We all know the tree is a mixed bag, and considering only the issue of 
> attracting birds, it is decidedly a positive.  I have extolled the positive 
> aspects of this tree for birds for many years.  These efforts started out 
> not so much as promotion of the tree but as an effort to "stand up" for it 
> a bit, and balance the rhetoric.   The knocks against it are: 1) it has 
> potential to take over riparian areas to the exclusion of native, better 
> trees like willow and cottonwood, and 2) it doesn't host very many insects, 
> and, thus, doesn't support a very robust set of nesting birds.  The fear of 
> riparian area take-over has been erroneously extended to upland sites 
> (which Crow Valley essentially is since it rarely experiences creek bed 
> flow any more).  I have only seen the total takeover and stagnation of 
> riparian areas in a limited number of places in CO, mostly along the 
> Arkansas e of Pueblo.  In my mind, tamarisk (aka "salt-cedar") is way worse.
>
> The primary insect R-o does have, an aphid (*Capitophorus elaeagni*)*,* 
> is very attractive to birds.  The fruits are very attractive to many birds 
> including warblers, woodpeckers, flycatchers, thrushes, waxwings, mimic 
> thrushes, finches, sparrows and many others including even upland gamebirds 
> and gulls.  Wood ducks love them.  When discovered, the 1st or 2nd State 
> Record Brown-crested Flycatcher, Fork-tailed Flycatcher and 
> Tropical Kingbird were in or near Russian-olives, no doubt using fruits to 
> sustain their wayward adventures. Hey, Duane, any chance the 
> Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher was doing the same?  Thickets are used by 
> certain marquis birds like cardinals and cuckoos as nest sites.  Owls like 
> long-ears roost/nest in R-o thickets, and I have even seen a pygmy-owl at 
> low elevation in winter in a R-o thicket.
>
> I am not sure what birders should do but I think the approach SeEtta 
> mentions of at least injecting some balance into veg management planning 
> early-on is good.  The resource managers, for the most part, have not heard 
> our point of view that the tree could be good, and they need to hear it as 
> something to weigh when considering the final plan.  My problems with 
> *every* R-o "eradication" project I've witnessed are:
>
>    - Major assault on peace and quiet
>    - Never get them all, miss many small trees
>    - Never enough $ to plant, establish and maintain "better" species
>    - Never account for sprouting that will have the site right back where 
>    it was in 10-20 years
>    - Never account for recruitment by bird droppings and seeds floating 
>    in on moving water
>    - In net, just dumb these areas down as a bird habitat and rec 
>    experience for 10 years minimum
>    
> Dave Leatherman
> Fort Collins
>

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