Don’t forget the ringneck duck! How many times have we called it ring billed 
duck anyway?

Deb Carstensen, Arapahoe county 
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> On Apr 21, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Susan Rosine <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> And yet the Scrub Jay is now two Jays; one named for a state, the other named 
> after naturalist Samuel Washington Woodhouse.  
> They really need to address issues such as the Orange-crowned Warbler. Now 
> that's a stupid name!
> And while I'm on my "mini-rant", if Chickadees are named for their vocals, 
> how about renaming Killdeer. It doesn't sound like kill deer to me. And 
> surely we can rename Virginia Rail something like "Kiddick"!
> 
> Susan Rosine
> Brighton
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 9:11 AM Timothy Barksdale 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Gentle Birders,
>> Along this line of thinking is the former McCown's Longspur.... now saddled 
>> with an abomination of a name. When I moved to Montana over 20 years ago, I 
>> found colonies of this species nesting on the tops of several buttes near my 
>> home. The extreme shortgrass was like an extensive putting green, of very 
>> high diversity. The occasional Horned Lark or Long-billed Curlew would 
>> appear in these locations but other wise, the aforementioned Longspur 
>> dominated.
>> 
>> The courtship flight is so utterly adorable- calling while fluttering to the 
>> earth, tail spread so wide it is easily spotted at a distance. The huge 
>> white panels with the narrow, dark and inverted T is so diagnostic and 
>> easily used to identify this species.
>> 
>> I propose that the assigned genus remain the same so the nerd-ornitholigists 
>> obsessed with following archaic protocols have their "win". But along with 
>> many other things, our past time continues to a lot of stupid things which 
>> hurt out growth and thwart more widespread adoption. Not naming birds better 
>> is one stupidity which follows this trend.
>> 
>> Bay-winged, Crescent-chested, or the White tailed- Grey, or even Fluttering 
>> Longspur... anything is better than Thick-billed. Sorry nomenclature 
>> committee that is just a boneheaded name.
>> 
>> Very sincerely,
>> 
>> Timothy Barksdale
>> Choteau, MT
>>> On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 3:56:31 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
>>> I can’t think of anything better than listing a Kwish-Kwishee Jay on my 
>>> eBirds tally. 
>>> Van Rudd
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 15:43, Emil Yappert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> +1
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Nathan Pieplow <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why should Steller get a jay named after him when he spent only a few 
>>>>> hours with the species and learned virtually nothing about it? He just 
>>>>> happened to be the first European person to shoot one. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "The Makahs tell a story about how the bird we know as the Steller's Jay 
>>>>> - the bird the Makahs call Kwish-kwishee - got its crest. The mink, 
>>>>> Kwahtie, tried to shoot his mother, the jay, with an arrow but missed. 
>>>>> Her crest is ruffled to this day."
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.birdnote.org/listen/shows/how-stellers-jay-got-its-crest
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doesn't the name "Kwish-kwishee" ring with more romance than "Steller's 
>>>>> Jay"?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan Pieplow
>>>>> Boulder
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 4:09 PM Ira Sanders <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> Maybe it will turn out that Steller  was a Confederate general and they 
>>>>>> will change the name to Mountain Jay
>>>>>> Ira Sanders 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 12:30 PM Robert Righter <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Peter the Great,Tsar of all of Russia, invited Georg W. Steller, a 
>>>>>>> German scientist to come to Russia and help explore and catalogue it’s 
>>>>>>> natural history. In 1741 Steller joined the Vitus Bering Expedition in 
>>>>>>> sailing east to discover what was out there. After several weeks   they 
>>>>>>> bumped into new land now known as Alaska. Steller discovered a jay, now 
>>>>>>> known as Steller’s Jay. The expedition sailed west exploring the 
>>>>>>> Aleutians. Out of many of Steller’s new discoveries was a new eagle, 
>>>>>>> now known as Steller’s Sea Eagle.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Doesn’t the eponymic name Steller’s Jay evoke more romance, interest, 
>>>>>>> and wonder than if it was just called, for convenience, say “Mountain” 
>>>>>>> Jay?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bob Righter
>>>>>>> Denver, CO  
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