I totally support not spending anymore time and energy on this. Philip > On Nov 29, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Evan Carlson <[email protected]> wrote: > > "I have seen some estimates in the millions." What estimates? This sounds > like you saw posts from random people on social media. > > All that money would need to be spent updating guides and brochures anyway if > only some bird names are changed, as you recommend in the petition. And a few > million dollars for the federal government to spend over a period of several > years is tiny, not "enormous," as you claim. It's a few pennies from each of > us each year, which I, for one, am more than willing to spend to get better > names for our birds. There's a reason that concern hasn't been discussed > previously on COBirds. > > For full disclosure, so you know where I'm coming from, I do not care about > whether bird names are changed at all. I don't think any of it will matter > either way within a few years. The time and energy you spend complaining and > trying to fight a decision that's already been made could be better spent > trying to come up with great new names for birds and influence those > decisions. > > Evan Carlson > Pueblo > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 3:18 PM Rachel Kolokoff Hopper <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> COBirders, >> >> I have created an online petition in rebuttal to the AOS leadership >> momentous decision to change all eponymous bird names & no matter your >> position on this issue, I hope that you will take a minute to read it and if >> so inclined to also sign it. >> >> A few notes before signing. >> >> After you sign change.org <http://change.org/> takes you to a screen asking >> for a donation. Change.org <http://change.org/> is free and any donations >> received are not for this cause. I am not fundraising. >> >> Instead, click on “No, I’ll Share Instead” which will take you to a page >> that gives you multiple ways to share the petition but most importantly also >> provides a comment box on the right side of the page. If you want to include >> a membership or organizational affiliation this is the place to put that >> information along with any other comments you may want to share. >> >> The link to the petition is here: https://chng.it/VHyjZp5snr >> <https://chng.it/VHyjZp5snr> >> >> One concern not included in the petition and not previously discussed on >> COBirds, but worth mentioning here, are the financial repercussions which >> are enormous. I have seen some estimates in the millions starting at the >> Federal level and ending with you. Every bird checklist, brochure, field >> guide, interpretive sign, database (including ebird) & website (to name a >> few) would have to be updated or redone. This is a lot of time & money. The >> argument can be made that this huge financial commitment would be better >> spent on conserving birds & their habitats. >> >> R. >> ----------------------- >> Rachel Kolokoff Hopper >> Follow me on iNaturalist <https://www.inaturalist.org/people/2339591> >> rkhphotography.net <https://www.rkhphotography.net/> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Ft. Collins, CO >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Colorado Birds" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/cobirds?hl=en?hl=en >> * All posts should be signed with the poster's full name and city. 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