Jens and Ken:

Thank you for your responses. I believe I now understand in part as to what is happening as to the streams. Let me take the output "trigger" first. The Stream Programming Guide states: "if the delegate receives an NSStreamEventHasSpaceAvailable event and does not write anything to the stream, it does not receive further space- available events from the run loop until the NSOutputStream object receives more bytes." This may answer the question of the "trigger", which is I now believe is simply the write statement. That means that instead of doing a polling loop outside of the delegate, (or doing writes inside the NSStreamEventHasBytesAvailable section of the delegate during reads) I think that all one needs to do is to write one byte in the "external" function, then handle the rest of the writes through the delegate NSStreamEventHasSpaceAvailable event. That should be a lot easier than doing a custom polling loop and trying to resolve the space available issues outside of the delegate. In other words, it seems that the delegate should do it for you after doing a one byte write.

I'll let you know how it works out. And I will address the other questions after I have tested this issue.

Best regards,

John

On May 18, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Jens Alfke wrote:


On 18 May '08, at 8:50 AM, John MacMullin wrote:

I modified slightly the Echo Server code sample from Apple with the following results. One, I couldn't stream a large file from a polling routine. More than likely it would cancel because of a Sigterm 15.

Whenever you report a crash, a backtrace is very helpful. Or at least tell us what function/method the crash was in. This shouldn't crash, so the problem is probably in something in your code.

It appears from reading the docs that the user cannot detect the end of a stream and that the NSStreamEventEndEncountered only detects a close.

"End of stream" and "close" are the same thing: a TCP input stream ends when the other side closes the connection (or crashes...)

Two, when unarchiving a file in a client input stream delegate method, if the stream terminated from the server because it was too large, the client terminates on an unarchiver error because it didn't get the whole stream.

A stream won't ever terminate due to length. You can send gigabyte after gigabyte over a TCP stream, as many happy BitTorrent users can attest ;-)

But yes, if the incoming stream closed before sending all the data the reader needed, then I would expect the reader to report an error. This shouldn't cause a crash, though; it sounds like your code isn't handling the error gracefully.

Third, the output stream methods shown in Echo Server are polling methods, not delegate methods.

The CocoaEcho sample? I just looked at it, and you're right. The writing code is badly designed. The client will block in a 'while' loop until all the data is sent, and the server code will simply drop response data on the floor if there isn't room to send it. I just filed feedback on the web page for the sample.

1. How do I stream a large file between connections or is NSStream the wrong tool? Can the stream size be modified?

Most of the CocoaEcho code is reasonable as a base for doing this. Rip out the server-side code that echoes the data back, and instead write the data to a file.

On the client/sender side, it's best to use the 'spaceAvailable' delegate call, as you said. In response to that call, read some data from the file into a buffer, then write it to the stream. Something like 4k will do. Pay attention to the return value of the write, which tells you how many bytes actually got written, and advance a file-position instance variable by that amount. That'll tell you the position to read from in the input file next time.

2. What is the largest stream size?

There isn't one. TCP was designed to handle arbitrary length streams. There are internal byte counters but they just wrap around harmlessly after 4GB.

3. Is it possible to detect a valid archive before I unarchive it, or do I simply have to intercept the exception?

No. If you have data in archive format, you have to just hand it to NSUnarchiver and wrap the call in @try/@catch.

But you said you were sending a file? In that case you should just send it as a stream of bytes. If you're reading the entire file into an NSData and then sending that with NSArchiver, that's a huge amount of overhead for no gain.

4. How does one trigger and make available a file an output stream so that the delegate methods can be used?

I don't understand that question. Can you give more detail? (Or perhaps I answered it above under #1.)

—Jens

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