On May 19, 2008, at 12:03 AM, Peter Duniho wrote:
From: ben syverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This is going to sound bitchy, but it's hard for me to have any
sympathy for vague complaints about the docs or the usability of
Cocoa.
That does sound bitchy. I mean, it's fair enough to say that people
ought to be providing specific feedback and constructive
complaints. But to have _no_ sympathy? That's harsh.
No, you misread me. I wrote that I have no sympathy for *vague*
complaints. I'm sympathetic to people like yourself who have "specific
feedback and constructive complaints."
I think when all is said and done, most of this discussion can be
chalked up to taste. For example, I hate C++. It's ugly, doesn't fix
the problems in C, and implements a style of OOP that I find unusable.
Java is basically the same as C++, and seems relegated these days to
the ghettos of CS101 and JSP. C# is yet another knock-off of C++. It's
all down to opinion, but if those were the only three languages out
there, I wouldn't write code.
The Obj-C way makes much more sense to me. Even the syntax itself
encourages program to be more readable -- would you rather encounter
something like this:
imgWatermarkScale(image, rect, false, 0.5, true);
...or this, which tells you exactly what it's doing?
[image scaleToFit:rect cropToRect:NO withQuality:0.5 andWatermark:YES];
And when would you use dynamic typing? For me, it's just about every
day. NSArray and NSDictionary can contain a mixed bag of any kind of
object. Imagine you have an app where users can select multiple items
of different types -- images and sounds -- so they can copy + paste
them. What if you want them to be able to hit the "Rotate Right"
button with multiple items selected, even though it only makes sense
for images?
for (id anObject in userSelection) {
if ( [anObject respondsToSelector:@selector(rotateInDegrees:)] )
[anObject rotateInDegrees:90];
}
Now if you add a new type named Movie to the app, all you have to do
is implement the rotateInDegrees: method for the Movie class, with no
change at all to your "Rotate Right" code.
Of course, you should only use dynamic features when you need them --
most of the time, it's nice to have the compiler tell you that you're
passing the wrong kind of object to the fourth argument of method XYZ.
Anyway, I could go on and on about how much I love Obj-C. I would
encourage you to keep at it. It really shouldn't be such a massive and
torturous investment of time -- just start with simpler apps and
slowly increase the complexity...
- ben
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