On May 19, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Peter Duniho wrote:
I agree with this statement. However, the conclusion is flawed.
You are welcome to your opinion, even if "flawed" ;)
Seriously, though, from some of your comments, I'm not sure that I
communicated my "conclusion" very well, because you seem to think I
was putting .Net down as somehow inferior to Cocoa. I tried to be
careful not to say that because I don't think it's true and even if I
did, it wouldn't have been relevant to the discussion that was going
on. I do like Cocoa better, which I readily admit, but the two
frameworks have different guiding principles and that causes each one
to have different strengths and weaknesses. I picked out one specific
weakness in the .Net approach because it seemed relevant to the
discussion at hand and because I hoped it might help people coming
from that background to adjust to a different way of learning and
understand WHY they were having a hard time learning. I wasn't saying
".Net is flawed, Cocoa is perfect" or anything of the sort, I just
didn't feel that a laundry list of shortcomings of the two frameworks
was relevant to the discussion at hand and wouldn't have helped to get
my point across. And my point was simply, "Cocoa is different", which
was in response to a lot of complaints on the list lately which seemed
to me motivated by people making judgments or having expectations
based on assumptions that aren't valid when dealing with Cocoa.
I originally started addressing your specific points, but after re-
reading my responses, I just don't think it's productive to argue the
mertis of the two environments here, so I deleted it. The two
frameworks are different, on that we can agree, I think. We both have
worked with both of them, you like one better, I like the other. I'm
not interested in proving to you that Cocoa is better, I'm only trying
to help people coming from .Net to Cocoa see that the differences
between the two go deeper than method and class names. There are
fundamental conceptual differences in the way they are built and
documented and clinging to what they know from one can be an obstacles
to learning the other.
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