Hello.
Thanks for the detailed explanation.

I have been a long Mac user and a programmer, although I also have written programs for Windows, Solaris, HP-UX, Irix. So, if I were a user, I would take the procedure you said. But our people at customer support dept., and upper manager don't think so. Also, this app, although it is an app, is somewhat special. So, it is not supposed to be launched by users manually. It is a kind of a helper program for the Final Cut Pro. Our people also though about using launchd option, but customer support people told me that it would be more difficult to explain things to users when something happened. So, it is the background why we considered the login item.

So, please forgive the decision of taking login item approach and installer approach.

I appreciate your concern.

Thank you.


On Jun 22, 2008, at 9:36 AM, Jens Alfke wrote:


On 21 Jun '08, at 11:21 PM, JongAm Park wrote:

Well, in my case, we wanted to avoid such workflow.
We want installing & running the special app to be transparent from users.

The best thing you can do to avoid extra workflow is to *not use an installer*. It's best if the user can simply download your app, copy it to their disk if necessary, and launch it. Mac OS X has all kinds of features designed to avoid the need for an installer in most cases.

I would find it much nicer to double-click the app and, on the first launch, be asked if I want to install a login item. This is simpler, friendlier and safer than an installer. Seeing an installer tells me that this application is going to potentially splatter things all over my disk, that could change the behavior of the system or other apps, and might be difficult to remove.

Also: When I download a new app I have not yet committed to using it full-time, so I don't want it setting itself as a login item. If I use the app for ten minutes and decide I don't like it, or it's not worth the price, I want to quit it and not see it again. It annoys me if it comes back the next time I log in. (This means that, even if I say No to installing the login item at the beginning, there should be a checkbox in the prefs that I can turn on later to make it a login item.)

—Jens

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