On Aug 08, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Jeff Szuhay <j...@szuhay.org> wrote:

On Aug 8, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Steve Mills <sjmi...@mac.com> wrote:
It's a term that's part of the language, so use it. I know what language I'm typing in, 
so I'm not going to confuse [NSThing new] with "new CPlusPlusClass". Even if I 
did lose my mind and not understand what I'm typing, the compiler would point out my 

Completely agree.

With me or with the message I replied to, but you didn't quote?
When I see [foo new] I think C++.

Why? That's not C++ syntax.
I recently had a case where I needed alloc alone and init’ed the object later. 

Yes, and that's not a place where you'd use new, obviously. new is a handy 
shortcut, not a replacement for all version of alloc/init*.

Sent from iCloud's ridiculous UI, so, sorry about the formatting


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