On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Michael Ash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. > Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by > definition, not smart enough to debug it." -- Brian W. Kernighan A very good sentiment. I'll have to remember that. > You are both right and wrong. I don't view them as trivial and not > particularly useful. What I view them as is as *less* useful than the > "old-style" techniques when used for "real work". My experience has > been that, in most non-trivial uses, bindings ultimately cost more > time than they save. I've had a not-so-dissimilar experience myself but I believe it's my own limited vision of their place in an application that is probably causing much of it. > ... my experience with bindings is that this kind of mystery > behavior happens all to often, because there's simply no good way to > find out what's *actually* going on, as opposed to what's supposed to > be. Ah, opaque proxy objects. :-) This has been my biggest complaint, but the situation has much improved in 10.5 > I realize that a lot of what I'm saying is fairly similar in theme to > arguments used against OO application frameworks in the first place, > I really haven't found any way to > reasonably debug these things besides dumping out the bindings info in > the debugger (always looks like it "should" look anyway), trying to > put breakpoints in KVC accessors, and in general doing a lot of > head-scratching and guessing. If there's a better way to fix these > things when they go wrong I'd love to know what it is. I'd be interested in hearing this as well if it exists. I know mmalc had traditionally been "the authority" on Bindings, so maybe if we say pretty-please, he could offer some additional tips. > KVO is terribly, horribly, frighteningly flawed at the API level but it > can still be very handy once you know the Magic Incantation. You just *know* that when you make such a blanket statement, some smart-ass is going to ask you to cite specific examples. I would be honored if you'd consider me that smart-ass. :-) -- I.S. _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list ([email protected]) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
