Hi,

In my program, I rely heavily on key-value observing (KVO), which I find really useful. However, I haven't found a good way to know when I should stop observing, i.e. call "removeObserver:forKeyPath:".

Until now, my solution has been to start observing in the designated initialiser, and to stop observing in the "dealloc" method. This solution kind of works, but has several drawbacks:

1. It doesn't work with GC, first because GC doesn't call "dealloc" and second because the simple fact that my object is registered as an observer probably prevents it from being collected in the first place (I haven't checked, but that's what I gather from messages found in this list's archive). Even if it didn't, stopping the observation in "finalize" wouldn't be ideal, as object would keep getting notifications for some time after becoming unreachable.

2. I have to be careful when I use this technique on CoreAnimation layers, since CA uses the "initWithLayer:" method to create presentation layers during animations. If "initWithLayer:" doesn't invoke the designated initialiser, then the presentation layer doesn't observe anything, and the program crashes when its "dealloc" method tries to call "removeObserver:forKeyPath:". The "solution" I have found for this is to keep track of whether a layer is a presentation layer or not, and only call "removeObserver:forKeyPath:" for non- presentation layers. That's ugly.

Overall, I have something that works but isn't elegant at all. I'm therefore looking for better solutions, and would be interested to know what people have come up with.

It seems to me that the only clean solution would be to detect when an object is "dead" and then call a method to make it stop all its observations, but this is equivalent to solving the memory management problem by hand, which is painful.

Thanks,
Michel.

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